Mues sight questions.

[10lrrp]

Need some help ID ing this MUes sight I just purchased.

working on getting pic uploaded



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PAT.
8073/10

Has a forward dog leg

I wanted to mount this on a # 1 mk lll but it looks like it may have been designed to mount on an earlier model .

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[Badger]

Some pics would help ..

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There are some old discussion threads and pics on the subject.

Regards,
Doug

[muffett.2008]

That shoud be patent 18,073/10, which refers to the original Mues(light) sight, which in itself is a rarity.
Attachment 50636

However it's descendants the Mues No.1 were as common as dog poop. The sights were originally mounted directly to the L.E'S but a later sideplate mount allowed them to be fitted to the No.1's, with a longer windarm to compensate for the additional offset.
Attachment 50637

[10lrrp]

looks like I have the original MEUS sight with an updated windage arm ( adjustable windage venier) anynone know of a source for the sideplate to mount to #1 MK III ?

THANKS for the replies

[Peter Laidler]

Woweeeee, that's a pretty impressive collection of sights Muffer. Is it just those or do you have others too?

[muffett.2008]

10lrrp, if you have an original Mues light model, than you will be a very sought after fella, but I don't wish to rain on your parade.
The components from the original model are not interchangeable with the later varients, so having an adjustable vernier on the windarm would make it about the 3rd varient.
The scarcity of the original was very pronounced by the 1930's, when a patent conflict arose, there were no original sights available to prove the conflict case.
The reasons for the early sights rapid fall from grace and subsequent replacement by the Mues No.1 was atributed to the weak spindles and thread lock, this was replaced in the improvement sight by more conventional and stronger components.
Original patentAttachment 50641
1st variationAttachment 50640
subsequent variationsAttachment 50642
Variations in windarms(original was thinner)Attachment 50638
and you asked about brackets, any of these will doAttachment 50639

Pete, yes I have a very large collection, missing a couple of rare OZ and Brit. ones though.

[Peter Laidler]

All the different thread forms you talk of Muffer reminds me of the Parker Hales! Phew, getting spare screws for those. No wonder they wouldn't (?) ever supply spare parts but would suggest that you returned it for evaluation, assessment and repair. Always at some considerable cost of course!

[10lrrp]

here are pictures of the sight in question.

Any chance to mount this sight with out a plate?

thanks again.

[muffett.2008]

You have the 3rd varient No. 1 modified sight, if you remove the screw from the windarm vernier and check for a second hole, it will tell if you have the long or short arm.
If it has one hole it's the short arm, which is what you need to directly mount to the safety, using the banjo spring to lock it in place, if it has two holes it is designed to be used with or without the mount bracket, you will need to set it to the hole close to the arm.

[10lrrp]

thanks for all the info , I have the sight mounted up was it common to remove the rear sight blade to be able to use the mues sight at 200 yards, I cant see my front blade until I raise the elevation to about 500 yards, or did they use a globe front sight ?