Danish Breda M1 reduced to parts kit

[Rick B]

They produced closed to 11,,000 Bredas and 11,000 Pietro Beretta's. I have had someone try and tell me they allotted certain numbers to each totally only 10,000 but I have seen both manufactures made in all serial ranges and have a bunch of stocks plus had many more that showed this also. Rick B





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Here is one of the 1st contracts in the 11,000 range plus a few more oddities. Rick B

[Neal Myers]

Those of us who live in the US still suffer from the Clinton/Gore administration. By executive order, ATF was told that US-made milsurp firearms (& copies) were not "sporting arms", & therefore not importable. This includes parts kits, as well as complete firearms. Every administration since then has also been anti-gun, hence no change.

Many small businesses involved in the sale of M1 rifle & M1 carbine parts, as well as repair & rebuilding, went out of business as repair parts were no longer obtainable.

Neal

[Bruce_in_Oz]

A very large quantity of Garands of all denominations were sent to Indonesia when Indonesia bought the package for the BM-59.

The weird thing is that the entire original BM-59 production was set up around converting existing M-1 parts, including the receiver; i.e. start with a finished (heat-treated) M-1 receiver and then cut away the bits that don't look like a BM-59.

Eventually, over the course of production, "original" M-1 parts started to dry up and it was a toss-up whether to make new "Garand" parts and then modify them to BM-59 spec, or tool up, almost from scratch, to make new "modified" parts.

[Rick B]

I forget where these are from and one may be Bob Seijas's ??? One is Indonesian and the other is Yemin Rick B

[Bruce_in_Oz]

5547876 bearing the stylized "Garuda" logo is Indonesian. Does anyone have a picture of the crest, etc. on the Nigerian versions?

The basic model of the Indonesian BM-59 is known as the SP-1, which looks like a stock, early BM-59.

There were several variants:

SP-2: Similar, but has a different "muzzle-device"/grenade launcher, ("tri-compensator" in the Beretta factory "glossy"), complete with flip-up sight. Also fitted with a fold-down winter trigger, a la SIG and Beretta.

SP-3: A sort-of "Light Support Weapon" concept: Take the SP-2 and add a heavier barrel, carrying handle, moulded plastic Beretta-style pistol-grip, bipod and folding "shoulder-strap" on the buttplate.

And then there are the bayonets! Two different-length blades and two different-length handles.

[Bruce_in_Oz]

Additional trivia:

There is some disagreement as to whether the "bird" depicted is a "Garuda" or a "Sang Radja Walik".

Any ideas?

[Bob Seijas]

Yes, the Indonesian is mine, the Yemeni is John Bondurant's. I used them in a GCA article a number of years ago. The Indo is full size 30-06 and M1 all the way.

[Claven2]

Some interesting guns here. Beretta and Breda made guns for more than just the Danish contracts, but obviously due to CMP and CAI in Montreal (now defunct), we most commonly see the Danish receivers. Here in Canada, they are far and away more common at present than USGI receivers and many are bought as the basis for a nice build.

Here's my Breda, BMB stamped on the leg, so presumably Breda supplied receivers to PB at some point.