Thanks Salt Flat, I've got $170 into her ($220 counting shipping), maybe $50 more for the other parts needed. That's still cheaper than any budget gun, if I get 2 MOA I'm happy, I hunt some thick woods with the occasional 100 to 250 yard clear-cuts, so iron sights on a handy little carbine are just the ticket. That 7.65x53 cartridge is still awesome after 125 years, 150 grns @ 2600-2700 fps and 180 grns @ 2400-2500 fps still gets the job done.