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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Diehl View Post
    Right here you said that it came in a metal sheath. That is what is confusing everybody. It should be in a plastic scabbard with a metal throat.

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    Thanks Al, it should indeed be a metal throated platic scabbard, not a metal one.

    Older Than Dirt, please don't be offended, if your friend's US bayonet has a steel scabbard, it is the wrong one, length makes no difference. The US hadn't used a steel scabbard since the time of the Krag bayonet. We would need a photo of what he has to assure that we can give you proper information to help him. Barring that, for accurate information on the correct scabbard for the bayonet see:

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    An excellent article by Gary Cunningham showing the development of the M3 and M7 US Scabbards for the M1905, the M1905E1 (Shortened M1905) and the M1icon bayonets and the M8 scabbard used for the M1 Carbine bayonets and later models for other US rifles..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Peppers View Post
    Also, the total OAL of the bayonet and scabbard is not important, but the OAL of the scabbard is.

    By the way, the 10" bayonet is the M1icon Bayonet, to be used on the M1 Rifle, by a soldier wearing an M1 Helmet.
    Led by a Platoon Leader armed with an M1 Carbine.

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    Ok guys, I`ll get it back & take some pics of it. By the way the bayonet has a claw lock on it & can go in the scabbard either way as the scabbard has a square hole on each side of it & the bayonet locks right in there like it should. Also I was in the Army in 1962 & the M1icon bayonet scabbard was metal that we carried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDER THEN DIRT View Post
    M1icon bayonet scabbard was metal that we carried.
    Still, that would be the first one I've seen...
    Regards, Jim

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    OK, me Bad, very Bad. You all are correct the scabbard is a kind of fiber reinforced plastic. I looked at it in the sun light & checked it with a magnet. Although to top part is Metal because it has rust on it. Also the scabbard is 10 3/4" long. I guess this is what happens when a person isn`t into edged weapons. They don`t check very good.

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    I don't think the US used an all metal scabbard since the Kragicon bayonet. Wood/leather/canvas/metal combinations, leather/metal combinaitons and plastic/metal combinations. I only have one of the first. ?Wood with a metal cap, wrapped in rawhide leather and inserted into a canvas cover. A bolo knife from WWI. The 1917 used a leather scabbard with a metal top, the 1913 used both and the plastic metal combo over it's long life.

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