Did Savage No4 go to India?

[muffett.2008]

Now who was it that caste the 1st vote?

[Bindi2]

Watch those buggers peter, they just took a vote on one of those forums, for me to tell you that you ramble.
But thats to be expected from bloody colonialists.

Jeez cant even trust another Aussie. But then he is on the side that is going to get floated off.

[brnom2]

Photos I should have put with the orig post (only just today cracked the "how to post photos" thing.
Seems to be vice marks on barrel which is why I suspected barrel had been changed - can someone quantify by the barrel stamps?
Thanks to those that rightly pointed out that Ishy screws were not just installed in India (excuse my ignorance please) and that they were also used as a preventative measure.
As I picked it up for nothing but the lic transfer fee, I guess I shouldn't complain, but all work that has been done seems very rough - vice marks on barrel, previously draws repairs failed, very "agricultural" bedding and Ishy screw.

[browningautorifle]

I don't think those vise marks would qualify as a barrel change markup...I know how hard it can be to remove one of those pipes and it's WAY harder than that. Maybe just some other work done by an over zealous craftsman being a bit careless...no protection on the jaws and Peter not on hand to castigate him...

[limpetmine]

I have a scrubbed No. 4 Mk1*, which has been remarked with their own numbers. If it weren't a Mk1*, I don't think you could identify what it started life as. It looks to be a Long Branch, but for sure it's taken a spill from the ugly tree.

According to "India's Enfields" by R.W. Reynolds, "Although India never officially adopted the Rifle, No. 4, thousands of these weapons were used in the China-Burma-India theatre of operations during WW2........". He claims "over 100,000 are still on issue today (2000)". He also suggest Savage rifles were acquired in large numbers. As to the "Ishapore screw", I believe I've read posts on this forum that suggest they're not purely an Indian thing. They are, in any case, potentially a very good thing- I have a ratty old No. 5 whose forend was unquestionably saved by the screw after both the draws area and the wood around the front triggerguard screw fell apart. Brnom2- try to post some photos of your rifle.

Ridolpho

[Bindi2]

The draws repair looks to me to be done as the book requires in fact well done. The centre bedding is unusual as being done with a steel piece instesd of hardwood. Any indication that the rifle has been a range rifle.

[Ridolpho]

Can't find the reference but I'm sure I've read that the Indian's experimented with steel strips like that placed forward of the barrel reinforce. One reason it didn't work was that the metal dug itself into the wood with use, changing the bedding.

Ridolpho

[lngstrt]

[QUOTE=Beerhunter;301587]Err - isn't the Pakistan Ordnance Factory in Pakistan?

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OOPS!! I just wandered back here, read my own post and though .... DUMMY!! POF is in .....

and then read Beerhunter's post. I'll just go hide over here .....

[brnom2]

I too recall reading that metal plates were used for bedding No4's in India, thought I read it somewhere on this forum but cant recall/find where. This was one of the reasons I thought it may have gone to India, and prompted my orig post

In response to Bindi2's question, I cant find any indicators that it has been a range rifle, but I can only go of comparisons to my other No4's which are all ex OZ fullbore range rifles. Has no indication of any central sight plate or PH5 sight or such being fitted - no stoning/polishing or general buggering around with trigger weights/sear etc - no sling swivel front action screw - no central made adjustable height front blade arrangement.