Late Inland Stock Question

[PhilipSpanky]

I recently got my hands on my Uncle's M1 Carbine that came back from Korea with him. My Uncle recovered the carbine from a blown-up tank and brought it home. It is a late war Inland, Serial No, 68891xx, with barrel date of 02/45. I am relatively new to the M1 carbine and I have a question about the stock. The stock has OI in the sling cutout, but there are no other markings on the stock. No crossed-cannons cartouche or anything else I can find. Have any of you heard of an Inland stock that escaped from production or an armory rebuild with no stock markings other than the OI?

Thank you,

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[painter777]

PhilipSpanky,

Welcome to the forum!

2nd: A Thank You to your Uncle for his service, glad he made it home.

The O stands for the S.E. Overton Co who made stocks mainly for Inland During WWII. The I means it was made for Inland.
Most all 'Accepted stocks' will have a Ordnance wheel stamped on the right. Some very lightly. On a Inland stock look very closely at the right rear side, forward of the oiler slot. Some stocks were field replacements and may have a small ordnance wheel or flaming bomb in the left slingwell.

We love pictures.
Would love to see both the stock (to determine model) and the carbine.
With a serial number of 6,889,1xx the 1 after the M1 stamp may be a hand stamped 1, this was in the serial range where they were also stamping 2 for the select fire carbines.

You got questions??????? We're happy to help.
You do know now........... that there is no cure

Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777

[painter777]

Hey Spanky,

Here is a link to a very nice example of a Inland with the Hand stamped 1.

Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777

Original Handstamped 6.9 Inland pics..

[PhilipSpanky]

[I]Charlie-Painter777,

There are no visible markings on the right side of the stock. I took another closer look inside the left hand sling cutout. There "might" be the remnants of a small flaming bomb stamp (I'm not really sure...could I be imagining it?) Over time I think the sling rubbed directly in the area of the bomb and/or the impression was not very deep to begin with. Would this likely mean a field replacement then, as opposed to an armory stock replacement?

The "1" on the receiver is definitely "hand stamped," as the "1" is located above the rest of the machined stamping.

I don't plan on fully taking the rifle apart until I know what I'm doing - so I don't screw anything up. I do know that I have:

Round bolt;
Type III barrel band/bayonet assembly (AI);
Front sight "R" (I think...)
IR Co rear sight;
Swivel safety (I can't read the markings);
4-rivet hand guard (OI);

When I first received the rifle I had a (retired Camp Perry Armory), gunsmith look it over to make sure it was safe to shoot. He said that the rifle was in very good shape overall. He did say that he thought I had a replacement stock (no idea what that meant at the time). He said the bore looked bright and shiny and the rifling appeared good. He also measured the muzzle wear. He called it in the range of 1.0 to 1.25. He checked the headspace with go/no-go gauges and said it looked OK to him to shoot.

A few weeks ago, I got up the nerve to loosen the barrel band and removed the steel assembly from the stock to clean and oil it up. I was not smart enough to look at any of the markings at that time. I hope to shoot the rifle next weekend. I'll let you know how that goes...

As soon as I get time and figure out how, I'll post some photos.

Thanks for the prompt responses!

Spanky

[painter777]

Spanky,
That carbine is sounding very nice right about now, but
I'd suggest if you don't already own them to pick up 2 very good starter books.

First,
I'd buy 'The M1 Carbine Owner's Guide' by Larry Ruth and Scott Duff.
This one is really handy to help you tear down and put back together your carbine, illustrations. Nice sections on problem solving, Zeroing.. etc. Can be had for about $15.00
Link: The M1 carbine owners guide: Larry L Ruth: 9781888722093: Amazon.com: Books

2nd,
I'd buy the current 'U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production' by Craig Riesch.
Again for under $20.00.. Here is a link:
U.S. M1 Carbines, Wartime Production, 7th Revised and Expanded Edition: Craig Riesch: 9781882391431: Amazon.com: Books

At some point your going to need a Bolt Tool to be able to service your bolt. Also a trigger spring tool to just make things easier. These 2 tools will allow you to take your bolt apart and pull your trigger housing apart... AND put them back together!
You can shop around but here is an example of each:

Amazon.com: m1 carbine bolt tool

Read thru the sticky threads at the top of the M1 forum page, some good info there.

Here is a favorite of mine I keep handy:

http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Man...-1276_1947.pdf

These will get you on your feet. If you find you need more and more info (As in your hooked big time) Your next move will be buying the Larry Ruth 'War Baby' and 'War Baby II' books, none better.

Looks like you have a few books and a couple tools to get a hold of.

As far as Tricks and Tips........ Well that's part of why we are here.

There is no stupid question for a first time carbine owner.

Cheers,
Charlie-Painter777

[U44]

Charlie

Your link to "Reference Man" didn't work. What is the name of the reference?

Jim

[USGI]

That link opens for me with AOL. If it works with AOL, it ought to work with anything! - Bob

[painter777]

War Department Technical Manual
TM9-1276
Carbines, Cal. .30,
M1, M1A1, M2, and M3
January 1947

This manual supersedes TM 9-1276, Ordnance Maintenance, Carbines, Cal. .80,
Ml and M1A1, 5 June 1943; TB 9-1276-1,15 January 1945; TB ORD 9, 10 January
1944; and TB 23-7-4, 13 October 1944.

I'll try link again. I downsized the link from ~225% to 100% when I posted it above, maybe that caused a problem.

Preview worked, Here's the LINK:

http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Man...-1276_1947.pdf

HTH,
Charlie-Painter777

[PhilipSpanky]

Charlie-Painter777,

Thanks for the info. I just ordered the bolt tool and the two books you recommended. I also went ahead and ordered a piston nut wrench and a trigger spring tool. I figured, what the heck, I might as well have the tools I need if I'm getting into this game...

I'll probably order the War Baby books after I digest the info I just ordered.

Spanky

Thanks again for the help. I'm still planning on posting some photos, but I ain't there yet...

[painter777]

Hey Spanky,
I use Photobucket, its free.
There is a sticky here somewhere that you can read about posting pics.

Little caution with the piston wrench, those nuts are/were staked.
The piston very rarely needs servicing. If stuck, try a penetrating oil to loosen it up.
Or as my deep south buddies would say........ "Stuck Piston?" Just shoot one off, it'll come loose.

Cheers Mate,
Charlie-Painter777