It's been several months since my last post, been busy payin the mortgage and feedin the teenager. But I found some Hornady .312" SST 150 grn's and some Accurate 2495 which has proved to be the most accurate, although more testing is in order, I think I have a good deer or bear (black) load. 150's for deer, 180's for bear. The proof is on the plate. That is at 70 yards or so with iron sights !!