P-14: What to look for?

[Catch22]

I'm considering doing some trading for an Enfield P-14 and a Type 99 Arisaka. I've been a sucker for Enfield's after the first time I shot my No4 MkI and have been wanting a P14 or even a 1917, so here's my chance.

I don't know much about the P-14, so I'm reaching out for some insight on what to look for. All I really know is in original configuration they value from $700 on ip if in good condition (at least what I've seen).

Thanks in advance!

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[Patrick Chadwick]

Well, since no-one else has contributed, I shall stick my oar in and say that the best advice I can give you is to buy the book by Charles R. Stratton "The Pattern 1914 and U.S: Model 1917 Rifles", North Cape Publications, ISBN 1-882391-29-2 and read it forwards and backwards before you purchase a P14.

Original, in the sense of "the same configuration as when it left the factory" P14s are rare, the majority having had the volley sights removed and been through an overhaul or the Weedon Repair Standard (WRS) procedure at some stage. Over here, most P14s are in a poor state as shooters, and you really need a hands-on examination of the configuration and condition - especially the bore - before waving your wallet.

If you want a good shooter, your chances are much better if you look for an M1917.

[Doug Rammel]

There is a Remington P-14 on gunbroker right now for 415.00 buy it now. Description says it has a shiny barrel. 700.00 Is a bit high for a P-14.

[ssj]

Well decide on the caliber, 303brit or 30-06!

A P17 will probably be easier to get parts for (but Citerion do barrels for both). I would stick to guns with matching serial numbers. So for a P14 that would be the bolt and the receiver, rear sights, and on the barrel if it has not been replaced. If you have a kindle you can download a good book on them by Stratton for a few dollars off Amazon.

Three companies made them Winchester, Remington and Ediston and most of the parts will be stamped to match, so W, E or R also worth looking for. They are very strong actions but check for headspace. They should do 2MOA or better.

regards

[Ridolpho]

I don't collect them but have 2 P14's and a single Model1917. Both chamberings are real nice shooters and the 14's are as accurate as the 30-06 even though they both have relatively poor looking bores. The Model 1917 is in very good condition or better and I payed about $600.00 for it. One thing to watch for is P14 barreled actions that have been stuck in Model 1917 stocks (note- "stuck" not fitted). I've noticed a few of these for sale. I bought one out of ignorance and it took many hours of work to get it properly bedded- not a simple drop in swap. Once you've read the book by Stratton you'll know how to spot this. Great rifles- good luck finding one.

Ridolpho

[WarPig1976]

Winchester, Remington and Ediston

It was Eddystone that made the rifles, Ediston invented the lightbulb.....

[gsimmons]

I thought he invented the short circuit. Oh, wait that was George Lucas, never mind.

[Surpmil]

The best advice I can give is to read the book "The U.S. Enfield" by Ian Skennerton. I suspect it was frequently consulted by Mr. Stratton, since it was written long before his book was.