+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3
Results 21 to 23 of 23

Thread: Type 1 NM MAYBE

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #21
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    12-11-2024 @ 03:06 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,265
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2025
    Local Time
    05:50 PM
    They look like service team barrels, but I have seen 1952 barrels on legit SA NMs. When they ran out of barrels in 1958 and were desperate, they used anything that was tight enough until all those great 1954s were discovered at Schenectady.
    Real men measure once and cut.

  2. Thank You to Bob Seijas For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #22
    Legacy Member Joe W's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    07-20-2021 @ 09:25 PM
    Location
    S.W. Florida
    Posts
    720
    Local Date
    04-28-2025
    Local Time
    06:50 PM
    Thread Starter
    Mark, Note that the seller states "never on a gun". As Bob said, it is a service team barrel. These barrels are to NM specs but, if you define a N.M. rifle as one built as such, by SA, then this is not a "National Match" barrel. These barrels were used by the various military teams in building match conditioned rifles and also as replacement barrels. Many legit National Match rifles went to the Army Marksmanship Unit. When they required a new barrel, and this could be at the completion of the shooting season, these barrels replaced the original NM barrel which was marked NM on the front of the barrel, between the rings of the gas cylinder. Military teams fired a lot of rounds both in practice and at various matches, including the National Matches at Camp Perry. The ammo was free. Many barrels such as these saw service at the National Matches but most collectors just don't see them as "N.M. barrels". I also believe these barrels were available to civilians through the DCM .
    The '1952" barrels that Bob mentions as being seen on legit SA N.M. rifles would be marked NM on the front of the barrel.
    Last edited by Joe W; 10-08-2014 at 09:50 PM.

  5. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to Joe W For This Useful Post:


  6. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  7. #23
    Contributing Member Bob Seijas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    12-11-2024 @ 03:06 PM
    Location
    Montville, NJ and Delray Beach, FL
    Posts
    2,265
    Real Name
    Bob Seijas
    Local Date
    04-28-2025
    Local Time
    05:50 PM

    Barrels

    "barrels were used by the various military teams in building match conditioned rifles and also as replacement barrels. Many legit National Match rifles went to the Army Marksmanship Unit"

    Funny story about that: SA was running out of barrels and asked Ordnance to find them 5,000 LMRs. Ord was able to locate 5,000 and sent them to SA... but when they got them the found that the Army Marksmanship Unit had gotten there first and picked out all the tight ones SA was furious and said they wanted 5,000 that had not been picked over, but Ordnance said there were no more to be found. They asked SA if they wanted to take the remaining LMRs and fill out the 5,000 with SA barrels in the system. SA said NO. Luckily for them, Ord found 50,000 barrels stored at Schenectady, all SA from 1952 to 1955. SA immediately sent an inspection team to check them over, and the inspector called them on the phone as soon as he had gaged them... there were 20,000 1954s that were very high quality. SA wasted no time, telephoned Ordnance the same day and claimed them before AMTU and the Marines could horn in
    Real men measure once and cut.

  8. The Following 2 Members Say Thank You to Bob Seijas For This Useful Post:


+ Reply to Thread
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3

Similar Threads

  1. Picked up my first Type 38 carbine and a Jinsen Type 99
    By bingeebob in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-12-2012, 01:20 PM
  2. Type 38 and Type 99 Rifle/Ammo Questions
    By masterdiver330 in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-31-2011, 07:10 PM
  3. derf's nambu type 14 pistol and type 99 7.7 arisaka
    By DERF in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-19-2010, 09:10 PM
  4. Type 99 Long Rifle; What Type Of Wood?
    By kar98k in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-17-2010, 10:32 PM
  5. Type 2 barrel band vs. cutdown type 3
    By carolinashooter in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 09-16-2009, 09:42 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts