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    Just wondering as far as value goes.....let's talk on a percentage basis instead of real dollars. What percentage in value would a miss-matched set be less than a fully matching set (I'm talking...rifle,scope and bracket). I know that the market out there is basically what people are willing to pay but there must be some kind of rule of thumb...isn't there???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaforth72 View Post
    whereas the earlier No. 8 Mk. II steel cases have a clip for the tool.
    Typographical error. This should read "whereas the earlier No. 8 Mk. I steel cases have a clip for the tool."

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    As for value, my guess is you will find a buyer in the US somewhere over $5,000 but and in the UKicon somewhere over £5,000.
    The prices for a pukka No 4 (T) have risen steadily since VE day and show no signs of plateauing yet.

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    Don't want to nit pick but more on an Engineering point (I,d love to say on an Armourer's point also, but thats just a matter of time) looking at AR44's pic in post #20, the front pad screws don't look like they were finished flush, could be just the pic etc ? can't imagine it leaving H&H like that or an Armourer's bench either, as most similar views of T's show the screws flush and in most cases hardly visible.

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    Bare in mind you are looking at an extremely close image. Its shot through a 4x macro filter. When I look at it really close by eye, the screws are flush and the indentations you see in the picture are the convex tips of the screws. They are no deeper then the S stamp which is microns deep.

    As for value bros, yeah I'm not sure either lol. It would be nice if there were a value matrix of condition vs completeness, but think it simply not much more than what the market will bear at any given moment. Auction theory at its best. I tend to believe what others have said and these are more likely to sell privately. Maybe someone tracks auction or dealer sales out there? I continue to look...

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    Thanks AR44, it does look better on my Mac.... using my old pc last night/ early morning. I don't think you will have any trouble shifting it, does pay to keep an eye on recent sales etc, just looking last night and found a No32 Mk 111 scope for sale with tin but no bracket that was £2000 ........

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    No worries Bigduke6. That's a whole learning curve I had to go through some time ago. Photo rendering via various software and their capacity to read and interpret the colour profiles. You'd think it would be minor, but the contrast is huge. Window's is atrocious. Apple and Adobe software are much better. Then it depends on monitors and calibration, blah blah blah. Anyway, I do appreciate the time people are taking to go through the thread and photos. Thanks.

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    AR44 Don't know your circumstances but If your not desperate for cash I would oil it up and keep it until the need arises, you may even look at getting another Enfield to shoot..... I,ve got a few bits saved for a rainy day, in fact selling a M1903 soon as its to fund another rifle, don't want to sell it but the replacement is going to get more outings, cheaper to run and value is only going one way.

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    Cash isn't the issue so, yes, time is on my side. My life has simply taken a different focus over the years and I'm just not able to find the time to enjoy my collection which is mostly sold now. I had three Enfield plus many other rifles. This No 4 and a project match rifle (current on Gun Broker - Prairie Gun Works Timberwolf 338 Lapua project : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com
    - but that is a topic for another thread) are the last to go. Those two are hands down my favorites and the reason it has taken so long to move them. Bottom line is I haven't changed my mind in the last three years. Time to let someone else enjoy them.

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    well you know since you lost interest you could leave this rifle in my hands an i would give them a loving home an take care of that wonderful rifle i would be happy to spend hours a day making sure that rifle is enjoyed

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