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gatorwade Powder choices for 30 Carbine 04-19-2015, 02:39 PM
browningautorifle I used IMR 4227 but it's not... 04-19-2015, 04:25 PM
no4mk1t H110 and W296 are the exact... 04-19-2015, 06:55 PM
browningautorifle Excellent, excellent info to... 04-19-2015, 07:16 PM
no4mk1t For those that doubt this,... 04-19-2015, 07:37 PM
vintage hunter My Hornady manual shows the... 04-19-2015, 08:24 PM
no4mk1t Could be different lots of... 04-19-2015, 09:07 PM
vintage hunter Probably has more to do with... 04-19-2015, 10:05 PM
browningautorifle Absolutely agreed. 04-19-2015, 10:33 PM
enfield303t I have several reloading... 05-11-2015, 10:21 PM
browningautorifle Don't doubt it at all, just... 04-19-2015, 09:48 PM
USGI My understanding regarding... 04-20-2015, 01:07 AM
WarPig1976 Varget and IMR4895 are also... 04-20-2015, 05:04 AM
TDH And try to find 231. Also add... 05-05-2015, 05:13 PM
toolness1 I use 2400 and it works... 05-09-2015, 06:32 AM
USGI I've only tried a few loads... 05-09-2015, 11:13 AM
toolness1 I have tried 12.5 and 13 gr... 05-09-2015, 11:00 PM
USGI I agree about liability being... 05-12-2015, 01:27 AM
JasonA My area is swamped with IMR... 07-30-2015, 04:48 PM
Brian Dick I've been shooting 15 grains... 08-02-2015, 12:30 PM
Bruce McAskill Just about any slow pistol or... 08-02-2015, 01:26 PM
joem I use AA # 9. I load to get... 08-18-2015, 07:14 PM
gatorwade I took the advice of JasonA... 09-09-2015, 10:22 PM
browningautorifle I used to use the Lee scoops... 09-09-2015, 10:42 PM
gatorwade Lee scoops? Hmmm. Sounds like... 09-12-2015, 01:33 PM
joem I'm loading AA # 9. I get... 09-29-2015, 03:15 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by no4mk1t View Post
    For those that doubt this, you can look at the data on the Hodgdon website and see that the charge weights and pressure/velocity data are identical for both powders.
    My Hornady manual shows the same thing. However the two Speer manuals I have shows the max charge to be a grain different. I've seen data from other sources that show a difference as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage hunter View Post
    My Hornady manual shows the same thing. However the two Speer manuals I have shows the max charge to be a grain different. I've seen data from other sources that show a difference as well.
    Could be different lots of the same powder. Look at a selection of different manuals and they will all be slightly different for the same powder no matter which powder you pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no4mk1t View Post
    Could be different lots of the same powder. Look at a selection of different manuals and they will all be slightly different for the same powder no matter which powder you pick.
    Probably has more to do with varying jacket hardness and bearing surface lengths of the bullet from one brand to the next. Another factor could be slight differences in the bore/chamber dimensions of the test guns used.
    Anyway, my point is even though the two powders may be identical in all aspects don't take it for granted the charge weights will be interchangeable for all brands of bullets of a given weight.
    Check the data for that particular bullet before loading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage hunter View Post
    Check the data for that particular bullet before loading
    Absolutely agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage hunter View Post
    My Hornady manual shows the same thing. However the two Speer manuals I have shows the max charge to be a grain different. I've seen data from other sources that show a difference as well.
    I have several reloading manuals and all show different min/max loads for the identical powder/bullet. Look at a older manual and it usually is a much higher max. load than a newer manual, why?? Personally think that companies have serious liability concerns and who knows if their lawyers get involved.

    I have discussed this issue with friends that reload and we believe liability must have something to do with it.
    Why use a 50 pound bomb when a 500 pound bomb will do?

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