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Type 38 "parts rifle"
I was at a flea market today and came across a guy with some old beat up rifles. One was a near complete type 38 which was missing the bolt and a few other small parts. Stock is in bad shape, looks nearly black in color and has some nasty cracks in the butt area. He called it a parts rifle. It has it's mum although it is thin. Not scrubbed I don't think, simply worn down.
No school markings on the metal that I could see and the bore looked to be in surprisingly good shape.
The butt stock has an oval about two inches by one inch burned into it with three characters. I don't know if they are Japanese or Chinese but this mark resembles some I've seen on Chinese Mausers.
Price on this was such that I almost brought it home without thinking about it, $40. But then I decided it might be more trouble than it's worth.
I know without photos it's just speculation but what are opinions on what this might be.
My obvious thoughts are worn out Army rifle turned over to a school or a Chinese capture. I'm thinking I may go back tomorrow and get it if it's still there just as a curiosity piece.
The cracks in the stock are what kept me from buying it. I don't believe they would allow it to be shot even if I find a bolt for it. And I have no need for wallhangers.
I answered my own question. A few posts down is a thread about a training rifle and this rifle has "for training purposes only" stamp which would appear to match what I found today. May still take another look at it tomorrow. A training rifle I do not have.
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Last edited by Aragorn243; 04-25-2015 at 06:02 PM.
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04-25-2015 05:57 PM
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Price went from $40 yesterday to $75 today. I walked. Too many missing parts and the bad stock.
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Some times Arag ya just have to walk
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Bummer, at least you found something to make the trip worth while.
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Photos of the Bayo perhaps?
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It's just a rivet blade. I did pull all the Swiss bayonets out the other day so perhaps I'll do a photo study of the different types. Look for them in the bayonet section soon. One thing I noticed is that it is an actual rivet, not a screw. They look like slotted screws in a lot of photos because of the wear line of going in and out of the scabbard. I have three of the 1889-1911 type, rivet, plane fullered and raised fullered, one K31, two sawback - the 1878 Vetterli and the 1911.
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Photos up in bayonet section. I do not have a 1911 bayonet, I have a 1914 bayonet. I learned something this evening.
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