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    nice carbine

    Looks totally legit in every way, and a nice example in seemingly great condition. It even falls into the correct serial number ranger for Fazakerley, according to Stratton. As others have already stated, the forend tip looks "odd" in its taper; and, just get a correct 800 yard rear sight (via eBay, Sarco, or GPC, they run up to $70 or so) or even a "type 2" rear flip sight (a mere $8 or so). Saying it's fake because of the rear sight is like saying a Porsche ain't a Porsche because it has tires that a Volkswagen uses on it.

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    how the hell do I remove this rear sight? how do I take the pin out?

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    There's a small vertical retaining pin on the left side that needs to be tapped out from the bottom. Then the screw headed pin just slides out to the right, under pressure of the rear sight plunger spring. The sight will come off in your hand...
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    Go carefully with the plunger and spring. They can shoot out and you can loose the spring very easily

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    So if you have ooodles of Mk VII rounds lying around crack a few off when you get the required sight but to me I would rather have the 1300 yd one don't matter though it is your rifle you did not say whether it had the collar between the trigger guard and the action anyway it does need one of them. What you can look forward to is lots of range time in;
    A) working out a good load -which entails not only projectile selection but powder, primers, cases you know the form forget factory rounds $'s, two projectiles I would use one up to 400 yds Hornady 150 Grain spire point (.312") and the ubiquitous 174 grain Sierra Match King (.311") for the longer ranges
    B) Any combination of the above work at till you get the best groupings over your shooting ranges then stick to it but a word of advice change one thing at a time to better gauge the results buy small quantities and experiment do not go out and buy say 5 kilos of Varget just to find out that the rifle rifle does not like it, bit like ladies fussy.......
    C) Then over the ranges you shoot note the elevation on the rear sight and that way you know exactly what load shoots to what POA at your given ranges. As a foot note the SMK shoots to a different POI than the Mk VII pill and we do not use cordite any more and stocks of good Mk VII rounds are getting scarce to scarce to throw at paper. And I am not quoting loadings but I prefer AR 2209 goes well as does Federal - 210 primers.
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    I dont think anyone said so but the calibration is to 800yds and not 1300yds.

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    the 800 yarder is the correct one but having the 1300 on there would not worry me unduly, I reckon they would have been better off having a drum fed Owen gun or a spike club the jungle in Papua was that thick between the NJA and the Aussie troops an 800 yard back sight would be like an ash tray on a motor bike, though the Mk VII round ploughs through brush pretty well

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    The optimistic ranges on all the .303 rifles have always been a source of wry amusement for me - I mentioned in another thread how hitting a man-size target at 2,000 yards with an SMLE using iron sights is basically impossible since you wouldn't even be able to see the target; so... accurately engaging a similar target at 800 yards with an iron sighted carbine? Pull the other one, it'll summon the butler.

    But you've done well on your rifle and as everyone says, with the exception of the rear sight, it looks completely cromulent to me - and WWII vintage (January 1945) as well!

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    I said it before, and I'll say it for the last time Colonel.......... In Malaya you wouldn't need sights over 30 metres let alone 300 metres. Even the longest range, at Nee Soon only just about went that far as I recall.

    Armourers out there would often question the 'special' No5 0 - 800 yard sight which was adopted to take into account its a) shorter sight radius and b) the lower MV due to the shorter barrel. The irony was that the same applied to the Mk3 Bren. Also a shorter, lighter similar length barrel, reduced MV gun................. But guess what sight it used? Yep, the standard sight from the Mk2 Bren gun

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    so you guys think I should just keep the 1300 yard rear sight on here? would it not effect it because the rifle is calibrated for 800 yards? My sight has a "B" all over it so i'm assuming there is no way it was the original sight.

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