Long branch No. 4T scope help

[snipershot1944]

Suggest you go after the Lawrence scope.

[ncozzo]

I think I am going to pass on it MK I and wait till I can afford the proper scope for the rifle. The rifle is too nice to put the proper scope on it.

I will try to get pictures of the rifle and transit case.

Thanks for all the advice.

[Peter Laidler]

Can I just suggest that while you're ignoring the Mk1 scope and looking for a Mk3, of an old saying my mum taught me. 'A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush'.

And a Mk3 scope doesn't make your rifle more accurate either. It's just that one is graduated slightly differently.

[bigduke6]

ncozzo,

Wise words from Peter (post #13) in the future I would guess a Mk1 will be a sort after scope, quite a few trials No4T,s have come to light recently and would guess probably more to follow as nature takes its course or the need for quick cash arises...... new owners faced with the prospect of hunting down the original scopes or as near as, would pay a good premium or be prepared to do a swap etc.

I imported a nice trials No4T last year for a forum member, the rifle was a really nice example with the original Mk1 scope number legible, He has a Mk1 for it but would probably trade some of his organs for the original.......

I never thought I,d be the owner of a T, but had four No32 scopes before my first legit T arrived, recently was very lucky in an auction to gain another T and only a few weeks previous took the plunge and bought another Mk3 scope and bracket on ebay.... (very reasonable also) it was never cash I had or saved, it was a case of knowing what I could sell off to raise the funds. If I,d never bought, collected, sold or traded etc over the years it would of been a hell of a struggle, probably a lot of ear ache also.....

[Roger Payne]

You're right Big Duke. It may sound a little self serving to my wife, but I always argue that in buying collectable rifles, scopes etc., I am not really spending the money in the sense of it being gone forever (like in spending it on an exotic holiday - very nice but nothing left afterwards other than a rapidly fading tan & some snap shots), but just converting it into another form. Some people do it by turning money into gold, jewellery, or Chippendale furniture; we do it by converting our money into Lee Enfields. If you buy wisely you can always get your money back, if not make a profit, as & when you need to. And of course you have the pleasure of owning them in the meantime.






Just so long as she doesn't ever REALLY ask me to sell any................;-)

[PrinzEugen]

Ha indeed Roger and Dukie - it's not 'spent' as unlike most things you can always get the outlay back unless you've really got carried away, of course! My wife too understands this.... But Roger's right too... It's all theoretical until you sell 'em - and as if you ever really want to do that!

[bros]

You're right Big Duke. It may sound a little self serving to my wife, but I always argue that in buying collectable rifles, scopes etc., I am not really spending the money in the sense of it being gone forever (like in spending it on an exotic holiday - very nice but nothing left afterwards other than a rapidly fading tan & some snap shots), but just converting it into another form. Some people do it by turning money into gold, jewellery, or Chippendale furniture; we do it by converting our money into Lee Enfields. If you buy wisely you can always get your money back, if not make a profit, as & when you need to. And of course you have the pleasure of owning them in the meantime.






Just so long as she doesn't ever REALLY ask me to sell any................;-)

Heartly agreed Roger, Enfields are like owning something tangible. Having money in the bank these days is a waste of time. After you pay taxes on the interest (interest is basically nil) there is nothing left. Banks these days as I see it, are vulnerable. Your monies are nothing more than a figure on a computer screen. If the world economic system completely tanks, even if you have some savings...the banks or insurance companies would never be able to re-emburse you unless you had a wheelbarrow to pick your cash up in!!!! I wish I had followed this truth wandering the various isles of different gun shows over the years, my collection would have certainly been more valuable and would have included a few more T-series rifles including a much sought after correct Longbranch at a "reasonable"price. The wives think that buying guns is money spent and loss, wrong.....it's make-up, hairdresser's and tampons.
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[Peter Laidler]

Another thing you ought to remember Nozzo is that if you thought the Mk1 was expensive today, you just wait until you see a Mk3 for sale......... And when you go back for the Mk1, it will have gone up in price too. Everything is cheap - yesterday

If you think that 20 years ago we were stripping them for their spare parts value

[CINDERS]

I think the Mk III on Lawrence went for 2.5K Au without the bracket and if you think thats expensive I think S&B's latest offering at $7,000.oo is way past my price range that drags off Premier and March and Swarvo's by a long way and it still wont make you a crack shot sorta like saying you own a Lamborghini but ya cannot drive the thing to its full potential and from what I have heard they are uncomfortable.

[Roger Payne]

In about 1998 when Charnwood were preparing to pack up I was in the fortunate position of knowing the owner & his son reasonably well as a fellow collector. Consequently I was offered one or two things before they went into the big auction of Robert's collection that was held at Bonhams. One item was a mint REL CNo32 Mk3 scope, complete with its lens caps, bracket & Mk2 canvas carrying case. At the time the going price for an equivalent British Mk3 was about 350 pounds, but Rob wanted 450 for the Canadian example. I cussed him heartily for 'exploiting' me, but handed over the cash. I still have the scope (as I managed to track down its 90L rifle). Would any forummer turn down a mint REL Mk3 with bracket, lens caps & scope case for the equivalent of 650 to 700 dollars, or 600 euros these days? What would my money have been worth now if I'd left it in the bank?

Incidentally..........................it's serial number 1C.