Whats this Cartridge

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Yep Italian Brixa the red devil is the hand grenade used by the italians in WWII this is a good thread as I am certainly learning from this. One thing I am thinking of is utilizing a .303 cartridge as a yard stick for a scale, as having just a picture does not scale the thing. And after going backwards and forwards through the 14th Ed C.O.T.W heaps my eyes are spinning!

Try the one on the left.

[Merle]

Just as soon as I find a tank to shoot at.....

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British military cartridges

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Here are a couple more the rolled ones for the M Henry rifles and one drawn case second lot of pics is the Kynoch version discernible by the little window just up from the base this was used in production as a visual to ensure correct rolling had taken place. Also the primer is indented not like a firing pin strike any clues on that one guys.The paper cartridge (faded red band) I do not know to much about also I think the one on the right is a 58 carbine round, of course the nickeled 303 for scale.TIA

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CINDERS, that is a nice display of the very early rolled cartridges and very difficult to collect now as examples just are not around. The indented primer case might have been a sample for display ? I really do
not collect US rim fires but there are a lot of cartridges in that group

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I have my rimfires stashed away I do not have many but will get a few samples up to share pics around, will post some bigger stuff later I have a 5" from one of our decommissioned Swan class destroyers incidentally one which was sunk off the coast as a dive wreck.
Years ago in Byford a place to the south of Perth at an ammo bunker area they had at the gatehouse 2 x 15 or 16" projectiles the bunkers are long gone along with the 2 projectiles of which I have heard adorn the naval base at Garden Island they were very big from my memory not the thing I would want to be on the receiving end of.......

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Patrick is that a Rook cartridge they used to practice with instead of the 450 round!

[RCS]

Some pistol and revolver cartridges from both the pre and post WW1 period.

In the group of three, first is the 9.8mm Colt, developed around 1910 for a slightly smaller
Colt version of the M1911. Only trial pistols were produced.

second is the Thompson sub machine gun Model 1923 cartridge. This extra long cartridge
was loaded with a 250 gr bullet, also a trial cartridge

third is well know and used for comparison, the 455 Webley auto cartridge dated 1917.

The last two are the Soviet 7,62R Nagant revolver cartridge and the 8mm Piper cartridge
The 8mm Piper was used in both revolvers and carbines in Mexico during the pre WW1 period and was loaded in the US

[Patrick Chadwick]

"Patrick is that a Rook cartridge they used to practice with instead of the 450 round!"


No, it's an 11.2 (or 11.15) x 37 R cartridge for the M1879 "Grenzaufsehergewehr" (GAG - the clue was in the photo label!) - the border guards rifle. In effect, a short range/guard-cartridge version of the 11.15x60R cartridge for the M1871 and 71/84 rifles.
Only about 4000 were made - if anyone else shoots one of these rifles, I would be pleased to hear from them. Definitely one of the rarer Mausers!

[303tom]

Yep Italian Brixa the red devil is the hand grenade used by the italians in WWII this is a good thread as I am certainly learning from this. One thing I am thinking of is utilizing a .303 cartridge as a yard stick for a scale, as having just a picture does not scale the thing. And after going backwards and forwards through the 14th Ed C.O.T.W heaps my eyes are spinning!

Try the one on the left.

105mm tank round...............

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105mm tank round..............
Correct Tom - 105 HEAT prac round steel case for our Leopard tanks even though it is a practice projectile I still would not want to be cleaned up by it as I feel the K.E contained would be substantial.
And as we are on the subject of KE here is a eye popper for ya;

444 Marlin with a 240 Grainer doing 2,400fps develops @3070 F.P.E (Foot Pounds of Energy) at the muzzle now here is some info from a blurb I read in one of my ordnance books somewhere a while ago - lets up size a tad
A 15 inch Naval projectile has the kinetic striking force of 80,000 Foot Tons so to put that in perspective more than the battleship Yamato (@72,809 tonnes in fighting trim) dropping on you bow first