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1968 MP5 with no serial number
Afternoon all,
Not a Fal I know, but didn't know were to post this one!
A few weeks back I bought a rare old spec deactivated early MP5 of 1968 manufacture... Itself an interesting piece.
However this example has no serial number, or German proof markings, not removed, just never there!
I have an idea it was provided to Enfield as a tool room sample prior to their license manufacture..
It has all the correct early production features and the HK markings along the top rib are also correct.
It was Birmingham Proofed in 1988 (this tallys with the closure of the Enfield site) and subsequently deactivated in 1990.
Looking at the bore closely (clear slotted barrel) there is little to no signs of use and the original blue finish is almost pristine.
Anyone seen any other examples un-serialed??
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I can't help you out, but it's a lovely looking piece
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Thanks Jim, at last a lead! I shall start digging into Turkish production and see what I can turn up .. 1968 seems rather early for licensed production, I wonder when they started?
I can't believe they were allowed to export/import firearms without a serial number being present .... the 3/68 has been used for the serial number on the documentation on mine!
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I suppose they could have produced a hand stamp set and commenced stamping...
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Morning chaps, well after a lot of digging I have discounted Turkey as the country of origin, It seems Turkey started G3 production in the 1970's but didn't start MP5 manufacturing until the 1980's.. All Turkish production ( from what I can tell) was the later type with the various updates including the scope fitting indent in the spine. So the search continues!
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Ever thought of writing direct to H&K? It seems to me that this is an example of where the wisdom of the crowd ain't going to further this
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Ever thought of writing direct to H&K? It seems to me that this is an example of where the wisdom of the crowd ain't going to further this
Evening peter, already have, I had a prompt reply that was rather non committal... But at least they responded.
I still awaid a response from the Royal Armouries collection..
It would appear that this piece per dates licence production, so its back to the tool room pattern theory .... More digging required!
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John, wish I could chop the barrel on my "Retro" GSG to same spec.......... but love my freedom too much. Did all the extras come with it?
There was obvious a change in circumstances to there "official line" at some point.
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