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    Quote Originally Posted by 0311Shooter View Post
    How many times must we go down this road? This issue follows us every where we go.

    If I was to buy that "collectable" NM Garandicon, I would want to know first if IT WILL FIRE AT ALL. If it won't, then DUH I want to get it fixed by the seller. How does he not know if it is filled with parts from China??!!?!?!

    If I wanted to be strictly a "collector", I would invest in locks of hair from Elvis.

    To simplify, I would be either shooting it BEFORE I buy it, or AFTER I buy it.

    If you want to know if it will fire, stand in front and I'll pull the trigger. China wasn't making parts for SA NM rifles new-in-the-box in 1971.

    What you do with it after you buy it is up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Wilson View Post
    Well I don't know how much info there is to give on the M-14 combo tool but I have had one for years (it beats the M-10 tool hands down for disassembling and reassembling the M1 bolt) and I just bought a case of 40 for 40 bucks.

    You have the date right but the rest I am not sure about
    My FSC number is the same as yours
    4933-768-0211
    COMBINATION TOOL
    1 EA A-5/67
    M00150-67-C-0697

    Only thing I can say is the bottom line would be the only place to get a contractors name or mark from but I cant decifer it.

    Dan

    Dan (Wilson),

    Thanks for commenting on my post. It’s been almost forty (40) years since I’ve last disassembled an M14/M14A1 RIFLE (and that was when I was at Aberdeen Proving Ground), but I don’t remember using any kind of a special tool to disassemble/reassemble the rifle’s breech bolt or to remove/replace the breech bolt’s extractor.

    I’m guessing that there were several United Statesicon Government Subcontractors who made combination tools for the M14 RIFLE during at least the 1960’s and the 1970’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polska View Post
    1. Two reblued buttplates
    2.Tools for cleaning M1 and M14. Don't look at them, use them.
    3.Nice M1 going to waste.Take it apart clean and oil it and shoot the damn thing.What are you saving it for? oyamma to confiscate it and chop it up?
    Reminds me of the guy who finally gets a date with the prom queen and gives her a peck on the cheek then spends the rest of his life why he didn't defile her when he finds out she gave out to everybody.

    polska,

    Thanks for commenting on my post.

    (1) It appears to me that both of the M1 RIFLE BUTTPLATES haven’t been reblued because they have the same black Parkerized finish as the M14 RIFLE COMBINATION TOOL (NOTE: all of those items are covered with a thin coat of 3-IN-ONE ® oil, and if that oil is completely removed, their Parkerized finishes would be less shiny and less black).

    (2) I try to only use every tool properly, and I try to only use every tool for the work it was specifically designed to perform. I have never needed to use any of the M1 RIFLE COMBINATION TOOLS nor any of the M14 RIFLE COMBINATION TOOLS.

    (3) My competitive High Power Rifle shooting activities ended many years ago, and I’ve never shot an M1 RIFLE nor an M1Aicon RIFLE competitively because I exclusively used a custom stocked 1934 SA M1903 RIFLE. I’ve never been good enough to date any prom queen, and I’ve never been good enough to shoot any NM M1 RIFLE.

    I was born and raised in Buffalo, New York, and most of my friends had last names like Dezyk, Grazik, Monczynski, Rosinski, Saflarski, and Zelinski. Almost everybody in my neighborhood worked at the Bethlehem Steel plant, the Lackawana Steel plant, or the Anaconda American Brass mill, and all of them worked hard and partied even harder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by U.S.iconG.I. View Post
    QUESTION #5 : Would it be of any value to anyone here for me to post a link to one hundred (100) high quality digital photographs of this M1 RIFLE along with its original accessories, its original packaging, and its original paperwork on this M1 GARAND & M14/M1A Forum?


    Ralph

    I would like to see more pictures and a data sheet on the 5.7 mil SA
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    U. S. G. I.,

    Thanks for commenting on my post. I’m familiar with the Official Data Sheet © of the Garand Collectors Association, but I’ve never filled out one for my NM M1 RIFLE because my rifle has never been disassembled nor even field stripped. All of the photographs that I have taken of my NM M1 RIFLE show all of its important identifying features that are visible without disassembling or field stripping the rifle. Therefore, I cannot show/describe the details of such parts of my rifle as: lower right front of the receiver, top of barrel (under both the front handguard and the rear handguard), hammer, trigger, trigger housing, trigger guard, safety, operating rod spring, etc. I believe that all of the photographs that I have taken of my NM M1 RIFLE show the NEW AND UNFIRED condition of the rifle; and the photographs of the glass bedding of the rear and both sides of the rifle’s receiver, the glass bedding of the rear and both sides of the rifle’s trigger housing, and the glass bedding of the areas around all of the rifle’s handguard bands show that the rifle has never been disassembled nor even field stripped.

    Farther down in this thread, I’ll post directions on how to view all of the photographs of my NM M1 RIFLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramboueille View Post
    The butt plates aren't reblued, they are simply new replacements. The rifle is an ordinary NM2 and value of NM rifles has everything to do with condition. He should find something else to shoot and put the NM away. They bring top dollar to a collector left in new condition with the box, paperwork and accessories.

    Ramboueille,

    Thanks for commenting twice on my post. I definitely agree with everything that you’ve written, but I’m sure that not everybody else will agree with both of us. If I ever again shoot competitively, I’d probably shoot a Britishicon LEE ENFIELD NO. 4 MARK I RIFLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0311Shooter View Post
    How many times must we go down this road? This issue follows us every where we go.

    If I was to buy that "collectable" NM Garand, I would want to know first if IT WILL FIRE AT ALL. If it won't, then DUH I want to get it fixed by the seller. How does he not know if it is filled with parts from China??!!?!?!

    If I wanted to be strictly a "collector", I would invest in locks of hair from Elvis.

    To simplify, I would be either shooting it BEFORE I buy it, or AFTER I buy it.

    0311Shooter,

    I believe that any new firearm that has been successfully proof fired and has been successfully function fired should still function perfectly even after it has been stored for dozens of years IF IT HAS BEEN STORED PROPERLY. My NM M1 RIFLE has always been stored properly – inside of a United Statesicon Military “Marvellum ® VPI (Vapor Phase Inhibitor) treated paper lined Protective Coatings Corporation” storage bag which has been sealed inside of a United States Military “VISKING ® COVER, WATERPROOF, RIFLE-CARBINE” plastic bag – just as I learned during my 1970 Small Arms Repair Course (M. O. S. 45B20/45B40) at Aberdeen Proving Ground (Aberdeen, Maryland).

    I purchased this Springfield Armory National Match M1 Rifle in September of 1971 through the Director Of Civilian Marksmanship, and this rifle was assembled from components that were all manufactured in the United States Of America.

    My uncle was a United States Marine Corps aviator, and he flew a Chance Vought F4U Corsair during the end of WWII and during the Korean War. I have a NEW and UNUSED pair of his tan unlined leather “U-S-N” flying gloves, which I consider to be “collector’s” items and which I would never use. I have owned many firearms, some of which were “collector’s” items which I never used and some of which were “shooters” which I regularly shot. I currently own many mechanic’s tools, some of which are “collector’s” items which I have never used and some of which are “users” which I regularly use. But I’d never want to own anybody else’s hair – not even Elvis Presley’s hair (and I’m a lifelong fan of the King) – because I’ve never seen any human hair that looks as nice as a high quality firearm or a high quality tool.

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    Photographs Of My NM M1 RIFLE

    To see one hundred (100) very large photographs of my NM M1icon RIFLE, its box, its packaging, its sling, its combination tool, its provenance, etc., do the following:
    [1] Go to "http://www.webshots.com/" (which is the “webshots” home page), left click on “log in” (which is in the upper right hand corner), and log in as:
    Member Name = SANMM1RIFLE
    Password = SANMM1RIFLE
    (all UPPERCASE LETTERS except for the number 1)
    [2] Go to the drop down menu “my shots” (which is in the upper left hand corner below “webshots”) and left click on “people” (which is the 4th item on that drop down menu).
    [3] Left click on the red “45B40_95B40” link (which is to the right of the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”); then left click on the red “SA NM M1 RIFLE S . N . 5796843” link (which is above the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”) to go to the album with the one hundred (100) photographs.
    [4] Left click on any thumbnail photograph to see a larger photograph, left click on the larger photograph to see the “full screen” photograph, and left click on the full screen photograph to see the full size photograph (the full size photographs range in size from 99KB to more than 1,350KB).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45B40-95B40 View Post
    To see one hundred (100) very large photographs of my NM M1icon RIFLE, its box, its packaging, its sling, its combination tool, its provenance, etc., do the following:
    [1] Go to "http://www.webshots.com/" (which is the “webshots” home page), left click on “log in” (which is in the upper right hand corner), and log in as:
    Member Name = SANMM1RIFLE
    Password = SANMM1RIFLE
    (all UPPERCASE LETTERS except for the number 1)
    [2] Go to the drop down menu “my shots” (which is in the upper left hand corner below “webshots”) and left click on “people” (which is the 4th item on that drop down menu).
    [3] Left click on the red “45B40_95B40” link (which is to the right of the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”); then left click on the red “SA NM M1 RIFLE S . N . 5796843” link (which is above the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”) to go to the album with the one hundred (100) photographs.
    [4] Left click on any thumbnail photograph to see a larger photograph, left click on the larger photograph to see the “full screen” photograph, and left click on the full screen photograph to see the full size photograph (the full size photographs range in size from 99KB to more than 1,350KB).

    Ralph Van Buren
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    User Name and Password not working...

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    Originally Posted by 45B40-95B40
    To see one hundred (100) very large photographs of my NM M1 RIFLE, its box, its packaging, its sling, its combination tool, its provenance, etc., do the following:
    [1] Go to "http://www.webshots.com/" (which is the “webshots” home page), left click on “log in” (which is in the upper right hand corner), and log in as:
    Member Name = SANMM1RIFLE
    Password = SANMM1RIFLE
    (all UPPERCASE LETTERS except for the number 1)
    [2] Go to the drop down menu “my shots” (which is in the upper left hand corner below “webshots”) and left click on “people” (which is the 4th item on that drop down menu).
    [3] Left click on the red “45B40_95B40” link (which is to the right of the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”); then left click on the red “SA NM M1 RIFLE S. N. 5796843” link (which is above the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”) to go to the album with the one hundred (100) photographs.
    [4] Left click on any thumbnail photograph to see a larger photograph, left click on the larger photograph to see the “full screen” photograph, and left click on the full screen photograph to see the full size photograph (the full size photographs range in size from 99KB to more than 1,350KB).

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S.iconG.I. View Post

    User Name and Password not working...

    U. S. G. I.,

    I’m not very computer literate, but the four [4] steps above work fine for me when I use my home computer, and they also work fine for me when I use my daughter’s home computer [she and her husband live about one hundred (100) miles away from my wife and I, and she and her husband have a different Internet Service Provider than my wife and I do].

    Are you sure that you’re entering the Member Name and the Password correctly? The Member Name and the Password are identical: SANMM1RIFLE (which contains no spaces, no punctuation, and no lower case letters; the character after the second “M” and before the “R” is the number “1”).

    You can still go to “http://www.webshots.com/” (which is the “webshots” home page), left click on “advanced search” (which is at the middle of the top of the page), go to “find a member” (which is on the right side of the page), enter “45B40_95B40” (with no spaces, no lower case letters, and a single “_” between the “45B40” and the “95B40”) in the search box, left click on the “search now” box, left click on the underlined “45B40_95B40” link, and then left click on the red “SA NM M1 RIFLE S. N. 5796843” link (which is above the photograph of the Military Policeman [me] who’s standing on top of the M151A1 “Jeep”) to go to the album with the one hundred (100) photographs of my NM M1 RIFLE. However, since you are not logged in as my “friend” (SANMM1RIFLE is my “friend”), you won’t be able to see any of the larger “full screen” photographs or any of the largest “full size” photographs, and you won’t be able to download any of the photographs except for the really small “thumbnail” photographs.

    If you or anyone else would prefer me to email you all one hundred (100) photographs of my NM M1 RIFLE, just email me at aareml2@aol.com [six (6) lowercase letters followed by the number “2”], and I’ll email you all one hundred (100) of those photographs in a series of thirteen (13) separate emails.

    Ralph Van Buren
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    Got it to work tonight must have been me sorry. Great looking pictures and one nice NM Rifle.

    Semper Fi...

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