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Evening Jim, thanks mate, pm back in the morning..
Hi Dan, many thanks for giving this such serous thought, great idea and one I will certainly consider..
Here's the thing, the receiver is effectively the rifle and the Canadian inch pattern is a quite a different cut, so though it might well be an expensive undertaking, I would like to build a straight pull with a complete set of C1 parts (except barrel), if an old spec style deac has been carefully done, (and assuming stripping and adjusting such a thing is legal to do in Canada) it could be stripped by a gunsmith, receiver repaired and shipped to the UK as a Sec1 kit along with a bolt group.
The easiest thing would be to send the deac complete, but that is a potential legal minefield and in my experience, it pays to have paperwork proving your build started as a sec1 parts kit....a case of belt, braces and tin hat to keep big brother at bay!
With our crazy mixed up gun law here in the UK, it would probably be regarded as sec5, thus retaining that status no matter what you did, short of welding it into an inert lump of steel!
I would go down the substitute receiver route for my proposed future L2A1 build, that would be a Lithgow L1A1 receiver ( I know they are the same bar the markings) but I think using a former LMG receiver would be a step too far for the powers that be chaps..that just might make them blow a gasket!
I will cast the net for an old spec deac L2A1 for the collection and for barrel measurements... The L2 gas block and tripod assembly might be tricky to source I suppose..
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Doesn't matter what you do to a Canadian rifle here in Canada, unless deactivate, it's still a prohib. Even with no gas port present, it's still an FN so it's a prohib. If stripped to parts, they are prohib parts...so they wrote.
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Doesn't matter what you do to a Canadian rifle here in
Canada, unless deactivate, it's still a prohib. Even with no gas port present, it's still an FN so it's a prohib. If stripped to parts, they are prohib parts...so they wrote.
So it can't be stripped in Canada Jim and it can't be imported here complete... Bugger!
The states are also out, as they dont recognise the rifle as deactivated without salami slicing the receiver.
This is getting complicated, can anyone suggest a work around??
I wonder if any C1's exist in Europe?
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For a substitute receiver, you could use either a Lithgow (for a late 8L-series) or a metric Type 1 receiver (same side cuts and large to-the-borders magwell cut as a pre-8L receiver) as a start. The same approach has been done over here in the States to recreate a C1/C1A1 receiver, just make the requisite additional cuts (thumb clearance cut, oversize magwell cut on an 8L) as needed.
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The only thing I could see is a DEWAT. That might be doable. Problem is finding and old standard DEWAT. The new standard is welded solid. A DEWAT is no longer considered anything...by Canada. U.S. would say it's still a machinegun.
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Please explain the thumb clearance cut? Also the top rear of the metric receiver would need to be channeled to accommodate the inch top cover of the C1A1?
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Please explain the thumb clearance cut? Also the top rear of the metric receiver would need to be channeled to accommodate the inch top cover of the C1A1?
The thumb clearance cut was inside the receiver to allow the thumb to go all the way down into the receiver when using the built in mag charger guide on the cover. Action to the rear and strip them down in. This is a cutout in the breech block carrier rails... Yes, you'd have to cut the back end of the top corners of the receiver to allow the fold of steel on the body cover to enter the receiver flush.
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The lower receiver or as we call it, the TMH was not the 'master component' and as such could be demanded as a replacement part at Field workshop level upwards. This meant that yours could have been supplied as an unnumbered spare part. After which it miraculously - and fortuitously made its way to you.
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