M1 Carbine - PLEASE HELP

[tenOC]

Deldriver is on the money on this one. If it was placed on Gunbroker and an anxious person just got a substantial payout through JG Wentworth and had no idea of the real value of money nor Carbines, this one might go to $1500 area. If it had a high wood stock it would bring more.

[jimb16]

I'm with BUBBA on that one. Looks original to me. And those are not index marks beside the rear sight. They are original type 1 stake marks to hold the sight in position after it was set at the factory. At $1200, I would buy it without hesitation, but if you think you can get it a little cheaper, try for it. But don't pass on that price if the owner doesn't want to go lower.

[INLAND44]

Correct. They didn't use index marks on the sight bridge. The adjustable sight has them in the sight base. The carbine looks refinished to me and the Ordnance mark on the stock looks like it was done last week. I would advise maximum caution.

[deldriver]

I'm with BUBBA on that one. Looks original to me. And those are not index marks beside the rear sight. They are original type 1 stake marks to hold the sight in position after it was set at the factory. At $1200, I would buy it without hesitation, but if you think you can get it a little cheaper, try for it. But don't pass on that price if the owner doesn't want to go lower.

Jim, I have used as well as other way more advanced collectors than me the term index marks to describe the line like marks used on flips sights. Stake marks (divot style marks) are generally associated with the later adjustable rear sights, although I have seen stake marked flips that were divot marked at each corner.

[INLAND44]

The early sights usually had the chisel-type staking marks (like l). No indexing marks were put on the receiver by the manufacturers, and I did not see any in your pictures. The round punch staking 'craters' were done for the adjustable sights because they had semi-circular indents on the sight base to receive the peened metal from the receiver. The adjustable sight had an indexing mark on the sight base, not the receiver.

[deldriver]

Listen, I have seen both chisel and index marks used interchangeably repeatably in regard to flip sights by more than people than just me. I think we are splitting hairs of how the word index is being used and nothing else. There are several words in this field that can have ambiguous meanings.

[Patrick Chadwick]

I don't understand the US market.

I also have a Standard Products .30M1, No. 2,200,xxx.
It has won the 50-meter BDMP championship in Hessen twice.

It cost one-third of the price quoted above.

OK, collector prices for supposedly perfect specimens may be extraordinary.

But for a shooter, in the country that manufactured millions of them?

I really don't understand the US market.

[shadycon]

The US market is getting controlled by "GREED"!