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Watching this one
Watching this to see how it develops may be interesting to see how high it goes bidding wars as usual on that site.
Original WW2 Leather LEE Enfield NO 4 T Sniper Sling Kerr Sling Free Post | eBay
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03-25-2016 03:37 AM
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unless others are seeing photo's i'm not, there is nothing to say when it was made or even if it is genuine.
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Its geniune, i cleaned it up for a mate of mine, there was 50years of S*** caked onto it!. The maker was H if my memory serves me.
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the bidding makes sense knowing that, but without that info i personally wouldn't take a gamble from 1 picture.
i'd love to poke through "burn-my-eye's" collection, there must be some gold waiting there.
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What is the book/pamphlet that the pages shown in the listing are from?
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Originally Posted by
brnom2
What is the book/pamphlet that the pages shown in the listing are from?
The British
Sniper, I Skennerton
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henry r
i'd love to poke through "burn-my-eye's" collection, there must be some gold waiting there
Yes he often surprises me with what he has ratted away over the years!
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From looking at the sling it appears to be the US pattern 1907 or M1907 leather sling - not a Kerr sling. The Kerr sling was a web style sling also known as a "NoBuckl" sling because it did not have any buckles or hooks.
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I agree with shoe303. This is an M1907 sling and is correct for the No.4 (T) sniper rifles. The Kerr sling is a web type with awkward and noisy metal clips and there were several variations of the Kerr sling over the years as well as variations for different weapons e.g. Thompson SMG and M1903 rifle.
The value of an original M1907 sling complete and in decent condition in North America ranges from $50 (when lucky) to $100 to $150. When I visited Hayes Otoupalik in Missoula, Montana a year and a half ago, he still had some in stock. They were stiff and warped from age and missing the two sliding loops, but he had inexpensive but quality replicas of those loops available. I have seen the M1907 slings turn up on eBay, in gun shops, gun shows and antique stores.
Treat any original M1907 sniper sling with great care. Most that I have seen with No.4 (T) are dated 1918 and the leather is very weak. Hooks can also disengage easily as the leather is dry and has lost much of its elasticity. I suggest engaging the claws into thevpreviouslybused holes which will have an enlarged rectangular shape rather than unused round holes. A "share peg in a round hole" can tear the sling and cause a grown man to cry. A few No. 4 (T) rifles, for example my Trials 1931 No. 4 converted to sniper which remained in service to at least 1963, have WWII slings with steel instead of brass claws and may have a year and maker stamped into them.
Do NOT force the sliding loops over the claws! The stitching is weak after about 98 years. Take the time to figure out how, using the diagrams, to assemble the sling so that the end without the claw does all the threading. The other secret is to slide the sliding loops into place at the right place and sequence! Ideally with the seam facing the rifle. It should only take you about 10 tries! Just don't force anything!
I have handled several dozen M1907 slings that came with No.4(T) rifles and have never seen one with a /|\ stamp by the way. I was however able to obtain one with the Canadian
government "released from service" mark --- a "C"with two arrows inside, oriented vertically, pointing at each other. That one went on to my nicest Long Branch No. 4 MK.I*(T) of course!
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