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It was a better bet for the Germans to "melt away" into the next trench-line back and then heave a LOT of nasty H.E. stuff into the recently vacated trench.
To this day, "FRIENDLY" position data, (and potential enemy "form-up" points), are always given to their supporting MGs, mortars and artillery. These "defensive fire tasks" enable beleaguered troops to call down Hell on their own position if things go really pear-shaped. Even a simple "shell-scrape" will offer some protection, even if a lot of that is "psychological". This practice continues to this day.
In the 1960s, the Australian
troops slugging it out at Long Tan called in artillery on their own positions. Anyone lying on the floor of the rain-drenched rubber-tree plantation was in some danger. Anyone standing up / advancing into that position was in deep trouble from shell splinters and chunks of shredded rubber tree.
Nothing "pretty" about it at all.
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2/13 battalion tobruk.
i really like the telescope and stand in the background.
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henry r
I think it is one of these.... Stand, Instrument, No21 MkV. Not sure about the telescope could be either Tel Sct Regt MkIIs or a Tel Sig (MkIV?)
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Looking for a stand. 
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wow son, you have an impressive collection.
a telescope and matching stand is definitely on my want list. it just hasn't made it to the top yet.
bindi you have a pm.
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Originally Posted by
Bruce_in_Oz
In the 1960s, the
Australian
troops slugging it out at Long Tan called in artillery on their own positions. Anyone lying on the floor of the rain-drenched rubber-tree plantation was in some danger. Anyone standing up / advancing into that position was in deep trouble from shell splinters and chunks of shredded rubber tree.
Smaller scale but similar concept, had things go a bit wrong with an M67 Fragmentation Grenade on a live fire section attack range, a grenade came to rest 3m (12ft) from my position. It was flat ground with no cover, no choice but to stay flat and hope for the best, after what seemed like and eternity, the grenade detonated and the shockwave rolled past. No injury to me, I wasn't in the cone of fragmentation even though I was well inside the 5m killing radius of the grenade.
- Darren
1 PL West Nova Scotia Regiment 2000-2003
1 BN Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry 2003-2013
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1940. Australian
soldiers boarding a troop train in Liverpool NSW Australia.
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men of the Ox & Bucks Light Infantry with Arisaka
rifles. On the back is written 'Windsor 1915' and in a different hand BUCKS BTN. These are probably from the Territorial Force as some are wearing the Imperial Service Obligation badge.
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Wow...... That's a '.....rather large' or what in these PC days we'd call 'formidable.....'S/Sgt sat next to the Capt (with Sam Browne).
What is the Imp Serv Obl badge Mk7?
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You can see it on at least two in the middle row Territorial Force Imperial Service Badge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The NCO to the left of the officer seems to have a btn or coy best shot badge.
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