Poly Teck ??

[Neal Myers]

I just don't like them on General Principle.

ALL Poly's in the US were sold out of the back of a truck in a dark alley. The importer obfuscated his identity. There is not now, nor has there ever been, US factory support. No warranty, no factory service, no factory parts, no nothing. If anything goes wrong, you are on your own.

I might buy a $10 beach umbrella under these circumstances, but a high power rifle that I will be firing 2" in front of my face? I don't think so.

Sure, Springfield Armory Inc may have some problem rifles, but they have been taking care of customer returns for 20+ years, at no charge.

Neal

[Sarge]

Yep sprungfeld, fed ord and all the others came with a factory warranty. the chicoms did not.
Course all but sprungfeld has long ago gone belly up - in most cases before their warrenties had expired so lots of good they were if you needed something.
It is Very fortunate for many that their sprungfeld came with a warrenty because they needed it. On the other hand the warrenty deprived chicoms have seldom ever needed any type of warrenty work so not having one was no big deal to the large majority of original owners.
The difference in price allows you to buy a chicom and a couple of thousand rds of ammo for what just the sprungfeld will cost you - ammo always extra.
You just got to have US, bleed. I'll bet a lot of you are driving jap cars and watching jap TV sets - WHY the hell doesn't your product loyalty extend to those items??? They are every bit as good as a sprungfeld rifle.
Sarge

[goo]

could be they're okay. as long as you don't try to resell it someday.

[Bozley]

Thank you all for the info on the Poly Tech. I knew I would receive good opinions on this site.
Semper fi-delis
Tom

[Danny]

Beach umbrellas now? Whatever happened to the Washing Machine or whatever it used to be? I don't understand the "no parts" phrase about the Polytech/Norinco M14 Rifles. What do you do when your Springfield Inc (oldest name in American Firearms BS), Armscorp, USGI M14 or whatever needs parts? I guess that you are then also out of luck as well. Factory service and a warranty isn't all that it's cracked up to be.

No charge factory warranty service from Springfield Inc; well, you are certainly likely to need it. My last Springfield Inc. went back 4 times for the same problem with the receiver and it was finally replaced on the last trip. That replacement was pure luck as I was lucky to get someone sympathetic at Springfield Inc. that really listened and looked at the problem. Had that not have happened, I would probably have eventually had to "eat" that rifle myself, as even letters pleading my case to Mr. Dennis Reese (which were certified) went unacknowledged, along with follow up calls to Mr. Reese's personal assistant Donna (who promised that she'd *get back to me*). As I had mentioned, I finally did get that receiver replaced, but the rifle really should be going back to the factory again as they don't have the barrel indexed correctly. With the sights centered up, it's 8 minutes off at 300 yds. and this rifle will be used at 1000 yds. It's a factory Super Match with McMillan stock and Springfield Armory (not Douglas) Stainless Steel Barrel. I'll pull the barrel myself, roll swage the shoulder and re-install it correctly. I won't take my chances with the factory again. I could end up with the barrel installed correctly, but with another problem upon receipt.

The only reason that I bought Springfield Armory was because of their factory rear lug. If they didn't offer that, I wouldn't buy them, and in reality I probably should be buying that in an LRB Receiver.

I spent from June or so last year until about late March with getting that issue resolved with my Super Match. It's also not the first of their products that I've had to return.

My other rifles are Polytechs, which so far have had NO problems, which is more than what I can say for Springfield Inc. The Polytech receivers are closer to USGI Spec.

Danny

I just don't like them on General Principle.

ALL Poly's in the US were sold out of the back of a truck in a dark alley. The importer obfuscated his identity. There is not now, nor has there ever been, US factory support. No warranty, no factory service, no factory parts, no nothing. If anything goes wrong, you are on your own.

I might buy a $10 beach umbrella under these circumstances, but a high power rifle that I will be firing 2" in front of my face? I don't think so.

Sure, Springfield Armory Inc may have some problem rifles, but they have been taking care of customer returns for 20+ years, at no charge.

Neal

[Maple_Leaf_Eh]

If any of the Americans on the board want to ditch their Chinese M14-type rifles, just ship them to Canada. We are veritably afloat with Norinco M14S rifles. Without the abundance of parts and tooling found south of the border, we seem to have figured out what it takes to make them safe and shooting. There is a forum called Canadian Gun Nutz dot com with plenty of traffic.

I always snicker when I read the Fulton's article. Would you trust a mechanic who can't stop complaining about factory parts?