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    I think that is one of the many "codicils" of Murphy's Law".

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    I have ended up with "multiples" of lots of stuff: dies, tools, fasteners, kitchen gizmos; usually bought in indecent haste, because the originals were not quite where they should have been when "urgently" needed.

    The "pro-active" side of "multiples is that it is handy to keep a couple of "spare" decapper / expander spindles and decapping pins of the various types and sizes, in the tool cupboard.

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    As a general point, the decapping spindles can often be fettled back into shape. Pins? Not so much. Check out the Lee decapping system; the "spindle" is not threaded, but smooth and is retained by a top nut assembly that is essentially a "collet". If you try to deprime a Berdan case, the pin is simply forced back up in the collet and not mangled. (Works on all but the most insanely-crimped boxer cases).

    And check out Lyman's .22 and .30 cal Tungsten Carbide decapper / expander ball kits; they come with a couple of adapter plugs so they can be used in a wide variety of dies. These seriously reduce "drag' as the ball exits the case neck. Less drag: less stretch and less noise.

    On a different tack: I destroyed both a CH and an RCBS primer-pocket decrimper tool, prepping "surplus" brass. Then I coughed up for Mr. Dillon's masterpiece and have never looked back. Only thing I did was to run a small, Tungsten-Carbide centre drill bit into the end of the "large" pocket swager, so that I could do the pockets of the very same Berdan cases that mangle the decapping pins of the unwary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
    Check out the Lee decapping system; the "spindle" is not threaded, but smooth and is retained by a top nut assembly that is essentially a "collet". If you try to deprime a Berdan case, the pin is simply forced back up in the collet and not mangled. (Works on all but the most insanely-crimped boxer cases).
    Not so fast there Bruce, I have one in the shop I managed to mangle. The thing kept slipping up so I kept tightening and tightening the collet. When I needed the damn thing it was too tight,,,,Mangled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
    I think that is one of the many "codicils" of Murphy's Law".
    Probably so... I never had any but moderate luck straightening the bent rod and simply procured another from local sources at first opportunity. The pins are hooped and unworkable after. I have a dozen to spare...
    Regards, Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce_in_Oz View Post
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    Calfed:

    As a general point, the decapping spindles can often be fettled back into shape. Pins? Not so much. Check out the Lee decapping system; the "spindle" is not threaded, but smooth and is retained by a top nut assembly that is essentially a "collet". If you try to deprime a Berdan case, the pin is simply forced back up in the collet and not mangled. (Works on all but the most insanely-crimped boxer cases).

    And check out Lyman's .22 and .30 cal Tungsten Carbide decapper / expander ball kits; they come with a couple of adapter plugs so they can be used in a wide variety of dies. These seriously reduce "drag' as the ball exits the case neck. Less drag: less stretch and less noise.

    On a different tack: I destroyed both a CH and an RCBS primer-pocket decrimper tool, prepping "surplus" brass. Then I coughed up for Mr. Dillon's masterpiece and have never looked back. Only thing I did was to run a small, Tungsten-Carbide centre drill bit into the end of the "large" pocket swager, so that I could do the pockets of the very same Berdan cases that mangle the decapping pins of the unwary.
    Thanks, Bruce. I glommed one of those Lee decapping dies right after I scrunched the RCBS decapping spindle. RCBS sent me two replacement spindles and a mess of pins under warranty.

    I have an RCBS swagging tool, but mean to look into the Dillon.

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