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There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet.
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12-09-2016 04:30 PM
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Pretty good cover, and a nice rest for support too.
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Would the bulldozer engine block/cowling most likely actually stop all or most incoming enemy rifle and machine gun rounds? The reason that I ask is that years ago an old boy, long since deceased, who had been interested in guns all his life told me that a .455" calibre revolver round fired at a Morris Minor engine would go straight through and out the other side, if fired at point blank range. I have no way of knowing if this is true but have always remembered it. I believe that the old boy concerned did, during the 1930s, actually legally own a .455" calibre revolver and so he may have possibly had a shot at an engine block.
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He probably missed and it went through the engine bonnet instead.
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The Box O Truth
Conclusions:
1.I hate to sound repetitious, but pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles. The .44 Magnum from the Ruger Super Blackhawk made a hole, but the .357 Magnum could not do the job.
2.The shotgun slug busted the block, but did not penetrate the cylinder wall.
3.The 5.56 rounds penetrated the side of the block, but did not enter the cylinder wall.
4.The .30-06 AP round not only penetrated the side of the block, but also penetrated the cylinder wall.
5.Neither the Ball nor the Green Tip in 5.56 were able to penetrate the steel plate.
6.The .30-06 AP almost made it through the plate. That’s what it was designed to do.
7.It’s fun to shoot stuff.
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Originally Posted by
Mark in Rochester
pistols are pistols and rifles are rifles.
That was more or less what I was trying to get across...and a soft lead bullet from a low velocity cartridge ain't goin' through an engine.
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There used to be an old saying: "You use a pistol to shoot your way back to your rifle."
Bob
"It is said, 'Go not to the elves for counsel for they will say both no and yes.' "
Frodo Baggins to Gildor Inglorion, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Originally Posted by
Bob Womack
You use a pistol to shoot your way back to your rifle.
Shower guns, as they were used in the most recent conflagration...so you don't have to carry a rifle to the shower.
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The old boy who told me about the revolver/engine block which I mentioned in Post 3 also held a private pilot's license in the 1920s/30s. Although he didn't actually own his own aeroplane there was an aircraft which he flew regularly at his local flying club and obviously at this time it was a traditional style of biplane. It was noticed that the wooden propeller of this aircraft had become damaged from possibly landing in fields of long grass and so a new prop was ordered which would take a while to arrive. Alarmingly by todays standards, as a temporary fix, canvas was glued to the damage on the rear of the propeller and the aircraft was permitted to cary on flying. When the new prop arrived the props were swapped over and he asked if he could have the damaged prop as a souvenir. The wooden propeller is now displayed in my home on the wall of the landing.
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Why wasn't the engine block in front of the berm and not sitting in the open?? This is what gets ranges closed down. Where was the range officer??
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