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Any thoughts on what a bayonet for this thing might look like?
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Could you please post a photo of the top of the sight? Does the "bell" in the tower rotate or slide in any way?
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Enslaved87
Any thoughts on what a bayonet for this thing might look like?
In the 18th C. it would probably have been a hunting-style broad knife, almost sword-like, with a straight quillon, thus effectively converting the front-end into a boar spear.
If you want to see what happens if you try to stop a wild boar with a more modern military bayonet, take a look at this:
Ungeeignete Ausrüstung kann lebensgefährlich sein (Seite 1 von 2) – Stöberhunde – Foren – Community Jagd – landlive.de
Which is why "Saüfänger" or "Hirschfänger" (google these words!) were very, very robust.
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Originally Posted by
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Could you please post a photo of the top of the sight? Does the "bell" in the tower rotate or slide in any way?
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In the 18th C. it would probably have been a hunting-style long and broad knife, almost sword-like, with a straight quillon, thus effectively converting the front-end into a boar spear.
The bell doesn't seem to be designed to move above its attachment point. It seems as though it was meant to be a way to make sure your rifle was kept vertical. I.e, see light on both sides of the bell. I could be completely wrong though. The bell is simply attached to the anvil via a very thin wire--it just swings in that channel. The idea of the 'boar spear' is fascinating. I have never considered that but it makes perfect sense.
I have lurked in this forum for years, but never posted before and boy am I glad I have started. What a great group of people. Thank you again for your input.
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"The bell doesn't seem to be designed to move above its attachment point. It seems as though it was meant to be a way to make sure your rifle was kept vertical. I.e, see light on both sides of the bell. I could be completely wrong though. The bell is simply attached to the anvil via a very thin wire--it just swings in that channel."
Amazing! That really is a new one for me. Very few things are truly unique, but that setup must count at least as very, very, very rare!
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The bell is simply attached to the anvil via a very thin wire--it just swings in that channel. The idea of the 'boar spear' is fascinating.
Both of these are perfectly sound. The bell is for level, I thought that from the beginning. It couldn't have any other use. The idea of the boar spear is typical of what used to go on for the hunters, a real man dispatched his quarry by hand. Boar are extremely dangerous too, not just when wounded. With only one shot you could have serious problems otherwise.
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Judging by the hole in the end Jim it would poke out a fairly large chunk of lead decent boar medicine to say the least, could we ascertain that the rifle used the minie ball or round ball though I do not see the point of spinning a round ball as it has if not only a small longitudinal axis that being the diameter!
Has anyone got the book Guns By Dudley Pope 1969 (mines packed away years ago somewhere) just as a guess something may be in there perhaps as it has allot of B/W pics of these types of weapons just a thought.
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a fairly large chunk of lead decent boar medicine to say the least, could we ascertain that the rifle used the minie ball
I agree...
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The rifle would have just used a round ball, with maybe very late in its life using a minie ball. The minie ball didn't come out until I believe the late 1840s, this rifle is significantly older than that (being a flintlock conversion).
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The rifle would have just used a round ball, with maybe very late in its life using a minie ball. The minie ball didn't come out until I believe the late 1840s, this rifle is significantly older than that (being a flintlock conversion).
That is a pretty darn big chunk of lead. Would you gents be willing to put a rough guess on a date? Down to a decade or two? ��
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