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17-2-8 Garand Picture of the Day - West Point
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02-08-2017 08:05 PM
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Cadet marksmanship training?
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Elbows
Look at those elbows! There is an easy way to get it up there and hold it without strain: shoulder the rifle and hold it in place with your left hand; reach your right arm straight back behind your head, palm up; swing your hand over your shoulder and onto the pistol grip. This locks the bones in place with your elbow like those in the picture and makes a difference in accuracy 
Real men measure once and cut.
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And it works marvelously too, just like the book states.
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He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose
There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet.
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Never seen a more uncomfortable shooting position. WOW!
34a cp., btg. Susa, 3° rgt. Alpini
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Originally Posted by
Ovidio
Never seen a more uncomfortable shooting position
You must be doing it wrong...unless you mean the one with the shooting jacket. Those jackets are a shade restrictive.
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Most all the marksmanship teams now use a bladed modified HK stance with the elbows tucked and locked. The US Army and USMC teams haven't used the high elbow for some time now. Part may be due to the use of the M16 however looking at very recent photos with the use of the M14
the elbows are tucked.
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We've changed as well to a position more like the UK used with the elbows tucked down onto the ammo pouches. They determined it made a smaller target in action, Afghanistan in specific. They also tried to turn and face the target square on to expose your vest plates, but found it wasn't really physically possible so it turned again.
Sentryduty can expound here if he sees this...
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My son laughed at my off hand shooting style because my elbow was out. He started calling me "Chicken Leg" because he was used to the M4 close-in hold with elbow in the down position. I then told him to shoot my Garand with his M4 style ... very uncomfortable and shakey. He don't laugh now.
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