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Thing about life EL17 you will never know until you have a crack at them just do not let them bully you, some of those people with neon sun tans would not have a clue what goes on they probably all got degrees and no first hand experience there is a vast void from a person that has come from the lowest position up the ladder and the other chap who comes straight from college. When the sh*t hits the fan I know who will control the situation better and its not the tosser with 15 degrees and a nice white shirt.........
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02-18-2017 04:26 AM
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OP: looks like one of the commies/antis employed by CPC swung the upper end of the butt against the ground, smashing it off. Does the heel of the butt or the packaging show impact damage there?
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Eaglelord: You're being a good guy to refund the buyer given that he had the option (and responsibility) to ask for full insurance coverage (around $2.50/$100.00). This whole affair worries me as I've had nothing but excellent results shipping with Canada
Post and it's somewhat hard to believe that they would proceed with normal delivery of a parcel that must have been obviously very badly damaged. I often tend to ignore extra insurance on relatively inexpensive rifles but no more- I just bought a fairly cheap Snider this morning and I asked for full value insurance from the seller. Hope you can find another well aged looking stock for that rifle but it will be tough. Regards.
Rudolph
PS: In future sales I think I will either demand the buyer pay for adequate insurance or accept that they own the rifle the moment it goes to the post office.
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Originally Posted by
Ridolpho
either demand the buyer pay for adequate insurance or accept that they own the rifle
I had occasion to send a pre war LL M1
to London by Canada
Post a few years back now and was certain it would go bed. The buyer refused to pay insurance and stated it would be fine and safe. I conceded and sent it off, stating that it was at his peril. He agreed...of course it made it without a scratch, thankfully. It remains to be seen what would have happened otherwise. I make certain to have an acknowledgement of their responsibility before shipping without insurance here.
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Well I have been thinking about what I am going to do. I might just try my hand at making a stock for it, and see if I can configure the rifle in a appeasing manner for myself. Thinking brass butt-plate, barrel bands, and such but I don't know. Maybe sell it off as a parts gun. We will have to see.
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As I recall, an L42 in the chest no less was destroyed in a similar fashion by NZ
post on arrival in NZ by the conveyor belt system. It was on its way to Invercargill. They paid up in full.
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That would have been devastating for the new owner to lose that rifle and kit, its not that you can just pop off to the corner store and buy a new one.
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It is a well known yet sad fact of life that some/a few people who work at the sharp end of the parcel/package delivery business do, on occasions stand on packages and throw packages with all their might. I have personally witnessed this happening when parcel delivery lorries have turned up at work, the driver has gone into the back of the lorry then stood on parcels/packages in order to help him reach the package that he wanted.
I have also witness, on occasions, seeing drivers trowing packages as hard as he can in the back of the lorry to move them out the way.
I could have gone over and politely asked him "please would would you kindly handle people's parcels and packages with more care by not standing on them or throwing them" but I considered that I would most likely get a 2 word response, the second word being "off".
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In loading trucks or containers(done a few 100 times being a delivery dispatch driver for Metroof in Bunbury) prudence dictates the furthermost deliveries or last ones off go to the front of the tray and the first ones to the rear and fragile items are so placed they are not in danger of getting smashed it is not rocket science though some dispatch drivers well they are not the brightest bulb in the packet.........
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One driver even forgot to shut the back door of his van properly, as he drove down the road the inevitable happened, the door swung open and a trail of packages/parcels was deposited along the highway. It sounds highly amusing but not if you happened to be expecting one of the packages that had been ejected out of the back of the van.
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