lee enfield mk4 forestock help needed please

[avin]

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hi roger
nothing is ever easy is it! what would be the easiest and cheapest way to go about this, i have the time to do the alterations and the easiest way would be best, for what model no would the parts be most accessible?.
the action has number 4 stamped on it, has someone tried to hide the model?

thanks
al

[Roger Payne]

I don't know what others would advise Avin, but as you most definitely have a Fazakerly made No5 barrelled action, that is what I would assemble it up as. (The '5' on the receiver side wall looks to have been changed to a '4'). I'll let others chip in, but off-hand, you'll need a flash eliminator, full set of wood & full set of furniture (bands, rubber recoil pad, butt metalwork etc.). A good idea might be to look at some photo's of complete No5 rifles, so you can see what is missing. Unfortunately the wood that came with the barrelled action is of no use to you as it is for a No4.

[avin]

hi rodger
oh dear!!!! could i adapt the forestock you have offered to fit? obviously the butt is another problem which i will have to work on.
yes i looked at the no5 jungle carbine and i must admit i now realize the size of task i am facing, to say i am downhearted would be an understatement but never mind, i will see what can be done.

thanks
al

[Roger Payne]

Yes, it can be adapted to fit; I have modified quite a few over the years. And the offer still stands, but I'm afraid I don't have any spare No5 wood as such. However, if you persist & you're not in a hurry, all of the parts will turn up eventually, & the job is certainly doable.

[Peter Laidler]

To be truly honest and if I were you I'd be thanking my lucky stars. The No4 butt is perfectly adaptable to No5 spec, as is the fore-end. In Malaya where we had zillions of the bloody things, modified/adapted fore-ends and butts were all that Ordnance sent out to us. Top handguard a sinch to adapt or modify too. As for the butt plate and pad and flash eliminator, you'll soon find them if you look hard enough. Correct backsights...., ten a penny! As are the rest of the bits

[avin]

thanks both roger and peter, you have made me feel better, i think this will be a game of patience both in adapting and finding the parts to fit, i have been finding as much information as possible on the no5 as well as looking on ebay for which there is very little. i will continue to search anyway, my son is away to search as well so that`s two of covering the net.
i think i will have a few more questions if you don`t mind as this moves on.

thank you all.

roger i will send you a pm regarding the forestock.

thanks
al

[browningautorifle]

there was a guy who made a new stock

Difference is he has experience and a pantograph.

the action has number 4 stamped on it, has someone tried to hide the model?

Yes they have, for whatever reason.

[avin]

afternoon all
so as it stands i am going to adapt the mk4 butt, top rail and the forestock which roger is kindly sorting out for me, the action is a mk5 jungle carbine, which trigger will fit the mk5 and the will bands from the from a mk4 still fit after i have altered the forestock?, its fine looking about but knowing exactly what i am looking at to fit a mk5 is another story! i cant seem to see a flash eliminator anywhere other than the usa unless you guys can point me to other sites that i do not know of.

thanks
al

[Peter Laidler]

Top rail = the HANDGUARD EASILY modified to suit. Butt, once again, easily modified to accept the new butt plate plus wood patch the existing sling loop recess. Fore-end, fairly simple. Triggers are identical. Upper band, use a No4 band and sling loop BUT when you recess the fore-end and handguard to take the No4 band, do it carefully to as depth to suit the slightly different diameter of the No4 band (unless you have a slightly different No5 band. Technically speaking a No5 flash eliminator is not allowed in the UK as a spare part but in your case.......... anyway

Froim now on, your project is transforming a No5 RIFLE. It's not being pedantic but a a Mk5 is not a No5

[avin]

ok thanks peter