Counterboring / repair of barrel crowns in australian cadet service??

[BushyFromOz]

I'm not sure what sort of skills/authority a 'Cadet Force armourer' would have had to do something that us REME/RAEME Armourers wouldn't be able to do - or be equipped to do. We did have a few local school cadet stuff under our wing in Oz, as we do here. I suspect that it's been nicely done in civvy life afterwards. Maybe a bit of cordwear to clean up.....

The thing about '37 patt webbing I really, truly don't understand, especially as someone brought up as an apprentice for 3 years with the stuff and all that that entails, is that people collect it! As I seem to remember the stuff we had, the web belt part was the only thing that was standard throughout the range. There were low pouches, higher pouches, long bayonet frogs, high frogs, frogs with loops, crossstraps with brass buckles or steel buckles. As for those anklets........ Anyway, just talking about it has put me in a bad mood.

i dont think they had that kind of connection here that you guys had in the uk peter. They basically cut all ties with any cadet movement and gave them nothing other than a name for the best part of a decade, unless you were a cadet unit on a base you could scrounge up the right people to do the work for you. If you were a unit not on a base you made it up as you went along, especially of it was in regional oz. That worked until the 80, 90s when they took firearms out of stores altogether and when they did get something back, they were bog standard brno model 2's for target shooting

[Bruce_in_Oz]

I never encountered an armourer in any cadet units of my acquaintance in the late '60's, early '70's.

If anything was amiss with any of the rapidly reducing stock of issued weapons, it was withdrawn and sent to the nearest "formation" workshop. Most units also only held "DP" weapons; functional ones being held at the nearest "REAL" service armoury and issued "on the range / exercise".

[BushyFromOz]

In my M1 carbine manual (TM9-1276, Feb 1953) counter boring M1 carbines was allowed during rework. I saw one Winchester carbine in all my years that came out of south America with such a rework.

The Russian collectors tell me in the post 1953 rebuild programs in the Soviet Union cord worn rifles were counter-bored. I certainly have seen such in the M-N imports form the 2006 to 2012 time period that came out of the case with mint external condition and pitted bores that had been counter-bored.

None of the Australian REME instructions that have been published , and the last one I ever saw was from 1973 or so provided for such a counter-boring. I very much doubt it was done in any military service.

Yeah i figured there would be no RAEME instruction for it, but i do understand that there was a point where cadet units did not have RAEME services available to them, hence my theory

[BushyFromOz]

Sorry guys, im probably sounding like one of those people who comes in here asks a question and then ignores the information provided by those with the answers, which isnt my intent at all.

The answer has already been given, someone accurising his rifle, unlikely anything to do with cadet units, i just like throwing junk ideas around inside my head =D

And peter, those tall Patt37 pouch, you can fit a hexamine stove and tablets, 3 packets of noodles and, a muesli bars and a bunch of beef jerky in one of those, they were great =D

[browningautorifle]

And peter, those tall Patt37 pouch, you can fit a hexamine stove and tablets, 3 packets of noodles and, a muesli bars and a bunch of beef jerky in one of those,

They did that for sure. We used them way into the next families of webbing too.

[BushyFromOz]

I never encountered an armourer in any cadet units of my acquaintance in the late '60's, early '70's.

If anything was amiss with any of the rapidly reducing stock of issued weapons, it was withdrawn and sent to the nearest "formation" workshop. Most units also only held "DP" weapons; functional ones being held at the nearest "REAL" service armoury and issued "on the range / exercise".

That works in quite well with a tidbit of info i got, in that some of the more "well off" schools had rifles but they were owned privately by the school and not the ADF, which is actually how i got my BSA International mk2 when they replaced them with Anschutz Match 54's.

[Bindi2]

My school had its own mortors, Vickers, brens, owens as well as rifles.

[henry r]

Can i ask what school bindi?

I think my dad's school (shore in sydney) must have had mortars in the 50's as he said he was a 2" mortarman in cadets.

[Bindi2]

Can i ask what school bindi?

I think my dad's school (shore in sydney) must have had mortars in the 50's as he said he was a 2" mortarman in cadets.

Guildford Grammar. They only have deacts now.

[Bruce_in_Oz]

The good old days: When cadets would carry rifles on trams and NOBODY would even blink.

Now it's all Pavlovian programming.