Lee Enfield stock etched "grenade" ??

[junker88]

Hey all

I can buy this enfield n 1 mk3 for a small price.

Enfield product 1913 or 1916.

I need you're help because the butt as "grenades" etched into it.

Can you help me to identify that ....???







Thank s for you re help

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[browningautorifle]

Pic is too small and doesn't enlarge...

[CINDERS]

Does it have wire wrap around the top & bottom fore woods behind and in front of the rear sight think there should be a cross bolt in the mix as well like Jim says "Ant" size pic can make out zilch detail an over all picture of the whole rifle with close ups of any stampings aides the knowledgeable ones here no end to assist with your questions.
See the one in the picture I have attached.
Cheers.

[junker88]

correction

But as "for rifle grenades" etched into it, there s no wire wrap around the top & bottom fore woods.

Stripes(Scratches) disappeared by place in the standard(cannon or barrel)
This is a Enfield. Product number Y 3597 1916.

Find by an a individuals in a old house on the french border with belgium near Bavay

I will post nice pictures soon.

Sorry for bad english

Thanks for help

[Roger Payne]

Bon! Je m'interesse voir les photo's.

[junker88]

hey


here are the pictures

Rifle was in very used condition!!!

The marking " for rifle grenade" can not be regulatory

Under "GRENADES" there is a marking "GE VENGUER" OR "LE VENGEUR" (the avenger) which certainly dates from the second world war and which had to be made by a resistant.





























Thanks for help.....

[Gil Boyd]

Jungers88,

I would say that the etchings on the wood, some scrawled and others stamped are no more than that..........etchings by its owner at the time, and not by any armoury house. A Resistance find 1916 Smelley. Hope the bores fine, enjoy shooting it.

[Peter Laidler]

As per Gil above. As a general common sense rule, marking your stuff with macho emblems and the like, notches to indicate kills etc etc was the stuff of comic books. It gives too many games away. Anyone caught with that rifle would be known as the squad grenadier. Any grenade killings would be immediately down to him with the obvious result...., the chop! Likewise names or other identity features, notches to indicate kill rates...... Nope, in action, always be 'the grey man'. Say the least, know the least and reveal the least by your words and actions. There it is, as learned!

[junker88]

In france we could find lot of gun used by résistance during WW2 with "patriotic marks" likes " the avenger " "vive la france" "revenge" "victory" etc....It's usual.

But why stamped this gun" for rifle grenades" ????????

[krinko]

"But why stamped this gun" for rifle grenades" ????????"

junker88,

Dedicated grenade launching rifles were marked in British service---I haven't seen one marked like this one of yours, but a lot of things happened between 1916 and 1939 which were not as "regular" as the regular army might like.
And I have no trouble believing in the personally marked battle rifle---Finns did it, Americans did it and even some Brits, as in this 1942 No1 MkIII*---



That's a nice relic you have there, thanks for showing the photos.
-----krinko