Bruce I'm using 46.5 grains of either IMR or Hogdon 4895 pushing a flat nose hard cast bullet that is weighing in about 147 and getting 3-4" groups at 100. Varget is right about the same. I haven't tried that load at 200 yet. In 308 I'm pushing the same pill using 41.6 grainsof the same powders. Good LuckInformation
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