Thanks Giancarlo. The thing that strikes me from the few Italianmade brackets that you have shown us, is that they are all the same in style, & now seen, can be recognized. The central 'strut' is slightly tapered in shape, like a Rose Brothers bracket. In other words it is slightly thinner at the front end than the back, but the surface is finished to a better standard & is flatter than a RB bracket. Additionally, it is now clear that Italy had its own numbering system for the cradle caps, which we now all understand. At least, this is what I will pick up from this. It has turned into a worthwhile thread - I've learnt something anyway. Previously I knew Italy used 4T's & I had even seen one Italian refurbished scope, but it did not have its bracket, & I did not even know that Italy had produced its own brackets.