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Interesting question.
It currently is held on my FAC.
But I'm covered all ways as RFD and section 5.
It would certainly fire if it had a trigger. No doubt with a huge muzzle flash.
Could be a section 5 short barrelled firearm (pistol)
but my local firearms department say section 1.
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02-26-2018 10:58 AM
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I think your local firearms dept are confusing it with a SKN action etc, I'd say without a doubt its Sec 5.....
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I would have to agree Geoff, if it goes on your FAC then its "officially" a firearm and subject to the same restrictions as everything else. In this case Sec5 unfortunately.
How about cutting away the chamber area, the bolt head etc (SKN ish), in order to render it totally inert? Then take it off your ticket...
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Originally Posted by
mrclark303
I would have to agree Geoff, if it goes on your FAC then its "officially" a firearm and subject to the same restrictions as everything else. In this case Sec5 unfortunately.
How about cutting away the chamber area, the bolt head etc (SKN ish), in order to render it totally inert? Then take it off your ticket...
As I understand the current deact rules the barrel, what's left of it would need to be slotted and a rod insterted up to the breech face and welded, the action would need to be slotted in line with the barrel slot. The bolt would need to ground off at the face and have the firing pin hole welded and the one of the lugs would need to be removed. Next the magazine slot would need to have a pin fitted and welded in place to prevent a magazine containing any rounds from being inserted, the empty magazine can have a slot cut in it to fit around the pin if required.
If a round can be loaded and fired once a trigger is reattached then you have a section 5 handgun as far as the current laws are concerned, it does not appear to be deactivated in any way that the law would recognise, at the very least I would recommend getting the barrel slotted and filled the rest would then be down to interpretation.
To be able to take it off you section 1 ticket it would need to go to the proof house and be issued with a current deact certificate, so all of the work previously described would need to be done.
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As I understand the current deact rules the barrel, what's left of it would need to be slotted and a rod insterted up to the breech face and welded, the action would need to be slotted in line with the barrel slot. The bolt would need to ground off at the face and have the firing pin hole welded and the one of the lugs would need to be removed. Next the magazine slot would need to have a pin fitted and welded in place to prevent a magazine containing any rounds from being inserted, the empty magazine can have a slot cut in it to fit around the pin if required.
If a round can be loaded and fired once a trigger is reattached then you have a section 5 handgun as far as the current laws are concerned, it does not appear to be deactivated in any way that the law would recognise, at the very least I would recommend getting the barrel slotted and filled the rest would then be down to interpretation.
To be able to take it off you section 1 ticket it would need to go to the proof house and be issued with a current deact certificate, so all of the work previously described would need to be done.
I think you're ,right especially as its already on the FAC.
My Constabulary advise on instructional firearms, was buy from an RFD and jointly ensure they are totally incapable of discharging anything before buying.
Due diligence and common sense basically.
They were viewed as non firearms (still are by most), perhaps some Force areas would regard them as defectively deactivated today..
The Sterling action being discussed here is a different matter, as it has intact pressure baring components.
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if I had scet 5 I would be buying semi autos
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Just removed it from my FAC now on my section 5 register.
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Originally Posted by
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Just removed it from my FAC now on my section 5 register.
Sounds like a sensible move to me, best not to take any chances.
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Originally Posted by
303 Collector
Just removed it from my FAC now on my section 5 register.
A wise move at present, we (all RFD's) have been having spot checks up here in last few weeks....... all due I think to the guy who was converting Sec 58 weapons.
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