Or, viewed but ignored. We were ignored until about Yugoin '92 and then things started to transform. Sad to see some of the early guys just slip away unnoticed and later guys got the world by comparison. For those thinking this "Greatest generation" didn't suffer anything and were tougher or some such b*llshit, it just ain't so. I listened to my dad yelling for guys that weren't there any more until his death...and he drank himself there. I grew up knowing lots of the guys from WW1 that were just as bad. Then there's the ones after... When you look you see.