The change in the law wasn't enough in 2013, we should be able to use any force and not have to face any consequences, but I suppose it was better than nothing............ I do like Cinders idea though, it would be a modern version of when we shipped our not wanted to the other side of the globe only this time drop them as fish food.......We will have to wait till were out the EU to follow up that idea.

Must admit I do miss my old Doberman, although the softest Doberman going he was an excellent guard Dog, he had the stance and bark that most feared that is until you stroked him...... then he was a puppy again...