Helmet Identification

[Rifleman 57]

Hi,New member here.
I found what looks like a 1917 Dough boy helmet at a flea market. It meets all of the criteria as correct although the suspension is missing.It has the band around the edge, rivet on top with felt type pad under it inside the helmet.2 side rivets with the trace of the missing bails on the metal. The only problem is that this helmet has what seems to be a 4 rivet suspension.That is there's a rivet on the front and rear too. I was wondering if this was converted to an industrial hard hat by some company taking advantage of surplus Brodie helmets. For $5.00 I had to get it. What do you guys think it is?

Thanks,
Tony

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[Gil Boyd]

Welcome to the site firstly Tony.
If you could put a picture up that would be great. Picture tells a thousand words. Quite simple to do that just ask the question on "hoe do I upload pictures" in the Search Milsurps.com box top right and it will lead you through it.
Good Luck, its not as difficult as negotiating a minefiled trust me!
Gil

[browningautorifle]

not as difficult as negotiating a minefiled

Certainly not as dangerous... We need pics on this one for sure.

[Sunray]

Industrial hard hats are plastic. And $5 is really cheap for any milsurp hat. You can usually tell helmet vintage by their depth. W.W. I helmets were relatively shallow compared to the same thing from W.W. II. Apparently the W.W. II MK II Brodie had a small brass nut and screw holding the liner in and it weighed 2.5 pounds vs about 2.25 pounds of the Mk I.

[browningautorifle]

Industrial hard hats are plastic.

There IS evidence of these military helmets being used in other roles through the decades just after the wars. I have a fire hall museum just up the road from me that has a couple displayed that were used some fifty years ago...

[UNPROFOR1994]

Probably a civilian helmet (hard hat) made by the Acme Protection Equipment Company some time later as March 2, 1926. That's when Edward Cairns patented a "Sanitary Cushion Lining" liner that was attached with 4 rivets, patent #1,575,251

Here's a link to an other thread with a similar helmet or hard hat: https://www.milsurps.com/showthread....879#post315879