Need help identifying the stock on my carbine

[jond41403]

Hello all, I was hoping someone could help me identify the stock on my carbine. It has no stampings inside or out that I can see,and I have looked over the entire thing with a magnifying glass and different lighting scenarios and I can't detect anything.my stock has the M2 selector switch cut out but I don't know if this is an M2 stock or a Type 3 converted to an M2.thanks

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[jimb16]

If it is a Springfield, it will have an SA on the top edge just behind the barrel band on the left side. If it is unmarked, who knows where it might have been made.

[browningautorifle]

Here's some pics the OP has sent to put up here...his stock...

[jond41403]

If it is a Springfield, it will have an SA on the top edge just behind the barrel band on the left side. If it is unmarked, who knows where it might have been made.

thanks for the reply jimb16.it does not have the sa marking on the barrel Channel like the others I have seen. Does my stock look to have a potbelly to you? I have never held a Potbelly stock in my hand so I do not know what they look like personally, only from pictures and I can't tell if mine has one or not. It does not look to me like it does but then again I am not a carbine Guru that has studied thousands of carbines like most of you guys on here have. I may have just an ordinary M2 stock. We're all M2 stocks unmarked?

[USGI]

I'd say walnut for sure, made without the bridge and has the long barrel channel, so it's not a modified Type 3. The shadow hides it a bit, but I think I see a slight potbelly. I would call it a Type 4. Maybe when Charlie pulls away from the election returns, we'll see what he has to say. - Bob

[painter777]

jond,
There are many stocks out there with no markings left.
Your stock is a M2 stock. It is a Type V and may be unmarked but I believe it's a Springfield.
It has the long 4.15 barrel channel.
Factory cut for the Selector lever.
Full Recoil plate support seat.
Under your Butt plate you'll find 3 holes.

If you compare the profile of the picture below of a SA, you'll see it is a 'potbelly'.
Some M2 stocks had even more of a pronounced 'Belly'.
You'll also see the same milling inlet cuts inside for the trigger housing.

Profile:


Trigger housing milling:


IMO,
These make for the best shooter stocks.

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I would call it a Type 4.

GIBOBUS,
I call a regular Type III that HAS the long channel and recoil plate support either a 'LATE' Type III or Type IV.
First model M2 stocks... Type V.

And yes will be checking returns after running out to the garage for a smoke.

[USGI]

jond's last picture has something (looks like a marking) in about the same location where SA stocks are marked. - Bob

[jond41403]

jond,
There are many stocks out there with no markings left.
Your stock is a M2 stock. It is a Type V and may be unmarked but I believe it's a Springfield.
It has the long 4.15 barrel channel.
Factory cut for the Selector lever.
Full Recoil plate support seat.
Under your Butt plate you'll find 3 holes.

If you compare the profile of the picture below of a SA, you'll see it is a 'potbelly'.
Some M2 stocks had even more of a pronounced 'Belly'.
You'll also see the same milling inlet cuts inside for the trigger housing.

Profile:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1/sl1600-3.jpg

Trigger housing milling:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1/sl1600-4.jpg

IMO,
These make for the best shooter stocks.

---------- Post added at 09:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 PM ----------



GIBOBUS,
I call a regular Type III that HAS the long channel and recoil plate support either a 'LATE' Type III or Type IV.
First model M2 stocks... Type V.

And yes will be checking returns after running out to the garage for a smoke.

thanks guys, this has been bugging me ever since I bought it a decade or more ago. And I'm glad to hear that it is the best stock for shooter carbines, because I know my carbine isn't a collectors piece, it's just a Mix Master shooter. I have always loved this little carbine and have wanted to know all the little details about it from trained eyes in the know.thanks again guys, even though I've owned this carbine for a long time, you guys are allowing me to get to know it a little deeper then I could ever on my own. When I first bought it, like an idiot,I did not disassemble the bolt and clean it before shooting it for the first time and it threw the extractor completely out of the bolt on the second shot I ever fired through it. Luckily I found the extractor using a metal detector in a field with high grass and it was still in one piece (I expected to find a broken extractor). There was nothing wrong with the extractor so I put it back in the bolt and replaced the extractor detent and Spring and cleaned out all the holes and crevices in the bolt and she has ran like a clock ever since(now I strip and clean the bolt every five or six hundred rounds or so). That alone taught me to disassemble and clean every bolt on any surplus rifle (before firing for the first time)I have bought since ,including my Garand. I think M1 carbines have the most interesting history.thanks again to everyone,especially you Charlie

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jond's last picture has something (looks like a marking) in about the same location where SA stocks are marked. - Bob

it does look like that in the picture, but it is just a dent

[painter777]

threw the extractor completely out of the bolt on the second shot I ever fired through it

Have heard that story before:

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=30342

Make sure you can see that the Plunger is sitting correctly on the flat of the **Extractor**.
Often see these rotated around...... just waiting to fly off.
I bring a parts pouch with me when at the range. Have a bolt tool, extra bolt internals.. among other things, to include a extra complete bolt.

See picture:

[jond41403]

Have heard that story before:

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=30342

Make sure you can see that the Plunger is sitting correctly on the flat of the Ejector.
Often see these rotated around...... just waiting to fly off.
I bring a parts pouch with me when at the range. Have a bolt tool, extra bolt internals.. among other things, to include a extra complete bolt.

See picture:

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC06034-1.jpg

Thanks for the tip Charlie,I bought a USGI bolt tool the same day I bought my carbine back in the day and that thing makes disassembly and assembly pretty easy. The forked end of the Pawl makes seating that detent cake. If I remember right,I had to order my bolt tool from a guy in France I believe it was and luckily it had already arrived at my house by the time I took my carbine out to shoot it for the first time when it threw the extractor.that's why I kick myself every time I think about how I shot it without cleaning the bolt prior to shooting it for the first time. I look at it as it wasn't the carbines fault, it was completely my fault for not making sure everything was right before I shot it. And just like the story in the link you provided, when my bolt threw the extractor,my firing pin also backed out and jammed up the action. Luckily it didn't hurt anything though but it could have. Lessons learned the hard way lol.