Here in the PNW, prices for the PC Carbine have settled at around $450 - $500. Not sure if they'll continue to drop - probably will now that I've got one! I'd been on the fence since the spring - they're a bit on the ugly side, and a tad heavy - but seems well made and has some nice features. Another plus is that 9mm Blazer-Brass is now down to around 13 cents/round. That ammo should work OK for my plinking at 20-30 yards. - Bob