Envoy accuracy expectations

[Strangely Brown]

I would question the RG black spot which I have seen some superb shooting with and some very questionable (read crap) results from the same shooter and rifle, in this case an L39.
I've binned most of my old plot sheets and don't remember shooting much at 100 yards, usually 200 and from memory my better results were in the 3 ~ 3.5 MoA area with RG which I happily admit I cannot now replicate with my current spinal issues.
The use of reloads and a 150gr Sierra Match King considerably reduced my group size in a Geoff Hart converted No.4 giving me my one and only 50 at 900 yards some 16 years ago.

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[Frederick303]

That is what I found, using some RG88 ammo. Nice tight ~1.3 minute group in the middle of the 10 ring on the US 300 yard target (shrunk for 100 yard) but a low shot not called which was 1.2 minutes low and 2 shots high around .7 MOA, one called left (it was) but neither called high.

I guess my point comes down to: Is the Envoy/L39 rifles noted for vertical stringing at short range, much like the SMLE with high velocity variation ammunition? I know it has excellent compensation for the 800 through 1000 yard range, and I gather it does well on the 600 yard line, but not so sure on the shorts.

We do not get any green spot ammo over here, it is hard enough to get Black spot not MG ammo , F4 and C21 regular ball ammo. So I was wondering how well regular commonwealth ball would shoot at short ranges out of Envoy/L39 rifles.

[Strangely Brown]

We do not get any green spot ammo over here, it is hard enough to get Black spot not MG ammo , F4 and C21 regular ball ammo. So I was wondering how well regular commonwealth ball would shoot at short ranges out of Envoy/L39 rifles.

At the very real risk of going off at a tangent I spent a morning in the NRA museum about 3 years ago doing some research and got into conversation with Ted Molyneux the curator.
Ted shot for GB many years ago and was active in the days when 7.62mm had just taken over from .303, he recalled a visit some friends of his did to Norway and the Raufoss factory where they were given a complimentary box of 7,62mm x 51 to try at Bisley.
Ted said that until they tried it nobody had realised just how bad some of the RG was!