+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 20

Thread: Spanish Model Z M42 Helmet

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Contributing Member Flying10uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Last On
    08-11-2024 @ 10:05 PM
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,244
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    12:07 AM

    Spanish Model Z M42 Helmet

    I thought that this video is quite good because it shows the early type liner as well as describing this style of Spanish helmet.



    Trying on one of these Spanish helmets, on one's head, does give a surprising sense of excellent all round head protection, including a good proportion of the sides and rear of the head. This feeling may well be largely psychological but the feeling that the sides of the head are well protected is there, in my opinion.
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Last edited by Flying10uk; 12-25-2019 at 08:41 PM.

  2. Thank You to Flying10uk For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #2
    Contributing Member Aragorn243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 04:29 PM
    Location
    Pennsylvania, United States
    Posts
    7,276
    Real Name
    Steve
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    07:07 PM
    I called an antique mall out on one of these two days ago. They have one in a glass case that someone put a couple of Nazi decals on, roughed them up a bit and then slapped a $385.00 price on it calling it a Germanicon WWII helmet. Either the dealer got taken or he's trying to take an unsuspecting buyer. In any case, it's fraud and I left the owners of the place know about it.

  5. Thank You to Aragorn243 For This Useful Post:


  6. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  7. #3
    Contributing Member BEAR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-07-2024 @ 11:10 AM
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    682
    Real Name
    Tim Rarick
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:07 PM
    Do you mean this is not a genuine WW2 Germanicon Stahlhelm?
    Attachment 104585Attachment 104586Attachment 104587Attachment 104588

  8. Thank You to BEAR For This Useful Post:


  9. #4
    Contributing Member BEAR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-07-2024 @ 11:10 AM
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    682
    Real Name
    Tim Rarick
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:07 PM
    Just kidding! When my son was 12, he wanted a Germanicon helmet so he could play war. Since $400 plus was out of my budget, I found a stripped Spanish helmet for $20 and repainted it, applied reproduction decals (crappy!) and put an M1icon liner inside. Worked great!
    Attachment 104589

  10. Thank You to BEAR For This Useful Post:


  11. #5
    Contributing Member Flying10uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Last On
    08-11-2024 @ 10:05 PM
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,244
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    12:07 AM
    Thread Starter
    The thing is, making a Spanish helmet look WW2 Germanish mucks up a genuine Spanish army helmet. Obviously the Spanish army needed steel helmets and they wore helmets based on the Germanicon design but made and finished them to Spanish specifications and not looking like perverted Wehrmacht helmets. For every Spanish helmet that someone has tried to make into a German army helmet there is one less genuine, original Spanish helmet.

  12. #6
    Advisory Panel browningautorifle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last On
    Today @ 06:59 PM
    Location
    Victoria BC
    Posts
    30,402
    Real Name
    Jim
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
    put an M1icon liner inside
    Recognized it straight away...last pattern of snap out head harness. Guys used to throw those in the wash machine and dryer...then they wouldn't fit.
    Regards, Jim

  13. #7
    Contributing Member BEAR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-07-2024 @ 11:10 AM
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    682
    Real Name
    Tim Rarick
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:07 PM
    Well, 17 years ago Spanish helmets didn't have much collector value in the Pacific Northwest and this one was just a beat up shell, so no foul! They still are not very desired out here by helmet collectors but I am sure they have a following. This helmet will never be sold as a Stahlhelm.

  14. Thank You to BEAR For This Useful Post:


  15. #8
    Contributing Member Flying10uk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Last On
    08-11-2024 @ 10:05 PM
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    5,244
    Local Date
    11-01-2024
    Local Time
    12:07 AM
    Thread Starter
    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR View Post
    Well, 17 years ago Spanish helmets didn't have much collector value in the Pacific Northwest and this one was just a beat up shell, so no foul! They still are not very desired out here by helmet collectors but I am sure they have a following. This helmet will never be sold as a Stahlhelm.
    I was referring in general terms not specifically to you. No disrespect intended.

  16. #9
    Contributing Member Aragorn243's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Last On
    Today @ 04:29 PM
    Location
    Pennsylvania, United States
    Posts
    7,276
    Real Name
    Steve
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    07:07 PM
    A lot of reenactors used Spanish helmets as they were affordable and wouldn't cause harm to a real Germanicon helmet. Quite possibly how the helmet I saw found it's way into an antique shop. The dealer may not have any idea it isn't real and overpaid for it himself.

    You have to be very cautious with these things. I found an M34 fire police helmet yesterday that i considered buying but I cannot verify that it is a WWII item. It does not have standard helmet markings and the liner does not look the same as examples I can find. It's in good shape, the price isn't bad if it's real but I am going to pass on it for those reasons. They made them into the 60's and there are numerous variations of both the WWII ones and the post war ones and unfortunately there does not seem to to be a website that specifically shows how to tell them apart.

  17. #10
    Contributing Member BEAR's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-07-2024 @ 11:10 AM
    Location
    PNW
    Posts
    682
    Real Name
    Tim Rarick
    Local Date
    10-31-2024
    Local Time
    04:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    I was referring in general terms not specifically to you. No disrespect intended.
    None taken, just an explanation of how that helmet came to be.

+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Spanish Mauser Model 1943
    By XTrooper in forum Mauser Rifles
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-23-2019, 06:03 PM
  2. Spanish helmet badges
    By Aragorn243 in forum Vintage Military Gear
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 12-24-2018, 12:34 AM
  3. USGI M1 Helmet; Paratrooper, Franken-helmet, not really sure?
    By ct241 in forum Vintage Military Gear
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 10-08-2015, 02:06 AM
  4. M1 Helmet Swivel Bale Helmet Differences
    By cquickel in forum Milsurps General Discussion Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-08-2009, 01:13 PM
  5. Perplexed with a Spanish Mauser Model 1916
    By Flipper 56 in forum Gunsmithing for Old Milsurps
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 05-25-2009, 05:27 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts