Got a Rock- Ola and have questions

[01lowbird]

Brand new here, as in first post. I joined this site because I was gifted a m1 carbine from my late grandfather and would like to know more about the history of the rifle as well as restoring it. My grandfather told me he traded for it in the 80's. The rifle has unfortunately had the stock replaced with a cheap hunting stock and a "numerich arms" scope mount with a "sterling" scope. Along with that it has had the front and rear site removed.
Naturally, I would like to replace the missing pieces and restore the rifle back to its original status. Any help with locating said items would be appreciated as well as any information on what to look for when acquiring said items. I will continue to search the internet on my own but appreciate the help from the knowledgeable crew here.
Thanks Everyone.

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[browningautorifle]

We need pics of this one, to show us how removed the sights are. In some cases the rear sight dovetail was completely gone and serrated after... The stocks came from various suppliers, Reinhart Fajen, Bishop...others. Also, many restorations are far more expensive that you might think. You can place a WTB in the forum here and probably glean most of what you need... Let's have a look...?

[01lowbird]

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[tenOC]

Good news/bad news. The good is that your dovetail appears usable. The front sight being gone allows you to remove that cut down bayonet barrel band and install a correct one and then the front sight can go on. The not so good news is there will always be a screw hole at the front of the receiver where one shouldn't be so it's not a great candidate for restoration. For me it clears a mystery on one I owned that had a hole there. Obviously it was for a scope but I'd never seen that mount configuration until your pics. Also, your dovetail looks cratered but I could be wrong. If they're large craters it's probably from having an adjustable sight on it and most likely it didn't have one originally, so you aren't really gaining any greatness by installing an expensive barrel band and flip type rear sight. the stock will be pricey as well.

But to be sure of your needed parts, what are the first 4 digits of the serial number? That tells the date of assembly/manufacture. The trigger group looks to be mix-master too so this was most likely a Rock receiver with Rock barrel when your Dad got it. Carbines that went through rebuild aren't good candidates for restore. One with a scope hole is a little further down the road from that level. Best money is to take the scope mount off and rebuild it as a shooter. Also, reproduction parts look pretty bad to a person with a little training so don't enrich repop makers for their personal gain.

[01lowbird]

Good news/bad news. The good is that your dovetail appears usable. The front sight being gone allows you to remove that cut down bayonet barrel band and install a correct one and then the front sight can go on. The not so good news is there will always be a screw hole at the front of the receiver where one shouldn't be so it's not a great candidate for restoration. For me it clears a mystery on one I owned that had a hole there. Obviously it was for a scope but I'd never seen that mount configuration until your pics. Also, your dovetail looks cratered but I could be wrong. If they're large craters it's probably from having an adjustable sight on it and most likely it didn't have one originally, so you aren't really gaining any greatness by installing an expensive barrel band and rear sight. the stock will be pricey as well.

But to be sure of your needed parts, what are the first 4 digits of the serial number? That tells the date of assembly/manufacture. The trigger group looks to be mix-master too so this was most likely a Rock receiver with Rock barrel when your Dad got it. Carbines that went through rebuild aren't good candidates for restore. One with a scope hole is a little further down the road from that level. Best money is to take the scope mount off and rebuild it as a shooter.

1684 first 4 digits, Thanks for the info btw

[tenOC]

I edited my replay with some more info after seeing a grammar problem in it. But yeah, that would have a lot of expensive early parts and you'd just end up having an expensive parts gun. We love our family connection with these historical pieces but unfortunately that doesn't help the issues these guns have. And almost all of them have had something freaky done to them.

The stock is $250-600. The trigger group is $300 at least. A flip is $300. The band is up there too. Maybe $200? I'm not up on band prices. Still it will have crater staking and the scope hole.

[01lowbird]

I edited my replay with some more info after seeing a grammar problem in it. But yeah, that would have a lot of expensive early parts and you'd just end up having an expensive parts gun. We love our family connection with these historical pieces but unfortunately that doesn't help the issues these guns have. And almost all of them have had something freaky done to them.

The stock is $250-600. The trigger group is $300 at least. A flip is $300. The band is up there too. Maybe $200? I'm not up on band prices. Still it will have crater staking and the scope hole.

Why would I have to replace the trigger group or housing? I haven't checked the markings but I assume its all original. also whats a "flip" ? do you mean flip up rear sight?

[tenOC]

A type I sight is what it came with originally. You can call it a flip up. It's a flip sight to most Carbine people. The safety is changed as is the mag catch, the barrel band was changed and since the rear sight has what appears to be craters from a type II/type III rear sight, it's probably been through a full rebuild and they would've replaced all the entire trigger group and parts most likely. Sometimes you get lucky and have a trigger housing, slide or bolt that's Rockola.

[jimb16]

As ten said, restoration would be very pricey and not really worth it in the end. HOWEVER; if you simply want to make it LOOK much like it originally did, you can do that with repro parts for a lot less $. Its your carbine and you can do what you want. I've used some repro parts as temporary "fixes" just for looks until I could find originals. If you decide to go that route, I'm sure many of us have repro parts that we would part with for realistic prices. BUT you will still have a "looks like" carbine and not a restoration and folks in the know would recognize it as such. It's your choice so do what YOU want to do.

[01lowbird]

I guess I will start a careful disassembly this weekend to see what I'm working with. Thanks for all the info. Maybe Ill get lucky and itll still have some Rockola stuff in it.