My friend had one in @1985'ish was alright but was a bit heavy walking up hill and down dale pushing through heavy scrub hunting porkers, I was toting a 444 S Marlin now it was a whole lot lighter the porker I shot with that rifle stayed anchored at a range of around 8 -10 yards I'll relate that story to you'se all one day it was about as scary as it can get when your not suspecting it to happen!