MAUSER PISTOL STORIES - LONDON

[vykkagur]

Ian on Forgotten Weapons did this video on a C96 Conehammer carbine with a done in period scope fitted....so, it is plausible.

I watched it - great stuff. This guy really has a fun job!

[Surpmil]

Interesting, but would a German smith really put a rear base on which prevented the iron sights being adjusted past 100m? And why do so when the whole thing would be custom made and making the rear scope ring leg a little longer would cost no more?

Grafted on I expect, perhaps with graft in mind.

Must have been very similar to what was in the photo though.

[vykkagur]

Interesting, but would a German smith really put a rear base on which prevented the iron sights being adjusted past 100m? And why do so when the whole thing would be custom made and making the rear scope leg a little longer would cost no more?

Grafted on I expect, perhaps with graft in mind.

Must have been very similar to what was in the photo though.

You're absolutely right. Mind you, as far as I'm concerned, anyone who thinks he's going to be effective past 150 meters with a pistol (and over open sights) probably buys a lot of lottery tickets.

[GeeRam]

You're absolutely right. Mind you, as far as I'm concerned, anyone who thinks he's going to be effective past 150 meters with a pistol (and over open sights) probably buys a lot of lottery tickets.

Exactly.
The view was probably that there was enough adjustment left on the iron sights for all practicable purposes that it wasn't an issue.

[Surpmil]

Exactly.
The view was probably that there was enough adjustment left on the iron sights for all practicable purposes that it wasn't an issue.

Will have to respectfully disagree there for the reasons stated. Such a bodge would not be "culturally appropriate", particularly in those times.

Would a typical customer paying good money for such a purchase take the "oh, well probably good enough" line? Not likely.

Waffen Goluch is still in business in Linz I see; someone could ask!

[GeeRam]

Will have to respectfully disagree there for the reasons stated. Such a bodge would not be "culturally appropriate", particularly in those times.

Would a typical customer paying good money for such a purchase take the "oh, well probably good enough" line? Not likely.

Why not. People still had deteriorating eyesight back at the turn of the 20th century, just as they do now, so if the customer was of a certain age, whereby the usefulness of the iron sights was negligible, and thus why they wanted the optics in the first place, why would they pay extra money for something to be 'sorted' that didn't need 'sorting' and that they didn't need. Perhaps the customer got exactly what they wanted?

[Surpmil]

Why not. People still had deteriorating eyesight back at the turn of the 20th century, just as they do now, so if the customer was of a certain age, whereby the usefulness of the iron sights was negligible, and thus why they wanted the optics in the first place, why would they pay extra money for something to be 'sorted' that didn't need 'sorting' and that they didn't need. Perhaps the customer got exactly what they wanted?

So you're describing a scenario where the owner might have had the scope fitted due to declining eyesight some years after first obtaining the pistol/carbine?

Why would any gunsmith put his name to a bodge like that when it would cost little more to do the job properly? That shambling, half-assed, "good enough" mentality is not generally found among properly trained tradesmen who have a considerable level of professional and societal respect, and self-respect.

Unless of course it was done for a person or nationality he disliked, in which case anything is possible. I have seen that happen once, though the smith was Czech and the customer German.