M4 bayonet's on A1's

[W5USMC]

There is a good article on "Bayonet Lug Usage on the M1A1 Carbine" in CCNL 348-4.

[lboos]

There is a good article on "Bayonet Lug Usage on the M1A1 Carbine" in CCNL 348-4.

W5UMC,
Not familiar with CCNL 348-4 but while trying to research it I found a lot of good articles on the A1, but still not a lot on the M3 barrel band on the A1's except a short article that some were put on the second batch of A1's at the very end of the run in late 1944. so, I guess that's it.

[tenOC]

In November 1944 inland started with the type 3 barrel bands. The first carbines to get them was the M1A1's. When the monthly production was reached any bands left over were used in normal carbine production.

I remember Brian made a similar post once, on one of the forums.

[INLAND44]

In light of all the info generously provided, I guess the question for you would be, is your M1A1 an Inland of the proper SN range to have been provided with the bayonet lug? Most of the 'M1A1s' are 'put-togethers', a lot of which was done by the military as well as on the civilian side. If you have an authentic, correct inland M1A1 with the bayo lug, you definitely would never modify it in any way. If its a 'put-together' or a non-Inland receiver or barrel, it doesn't matter.

[lboos]

Inland44,
The gun is a Inland sn. 695709 that would be to early for the bayonet lug, right? I don't know if it is the org. gun that came with this A1 stock or not. any way I decided to just leave it like it is. although I have thought about replacing the face pad rivets, the pad looks good but it has the wrong rivets in it, I have 4 ea. of what I've been told are the correct rivets, I started once to replace them but backed out for fear I would make a mess out of it. has any one replaced the rivets in there face pad ? I'm not sure how to do it, what type tools etc. thanks for any advice ?

The rivets are the only thing on the gun that sticks, they look like they are chrome plated ???

[lboos]

No way to edit, what happened ???????
I put way to much in post above, how do I edit it ????
The little edit post at the bottom is missing.

[W5USMC]

The gun is a Inland sn. 695709 that would be to early for the bayonet lug, right?

Yes, too early.

[USGI]

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[painter777]

Boos,
I've heard some say solid rivets and some say tubular.
I don't know which or if either are right.
I've pressed my share of Rivets back in my school years working at a Marina, but done by air.
I've used both of these companies below for supply on projects.
Do some internet searches and I'm sure you'll find which size, style and finish you'd need.
BTW, If you pull those, it would give you a chance at darkening your leather if you wish.
If your spring is weak, this would be the time to replace it.

I believe the brake and clutch rivets were marked "7/4"

Both of these dealers MAY carry the size, finish, markings you need:
Brake Lining Rivets | Clutch Facing Rivets | Jay-Cee Sales & Rivet, Inc.

BRAKE Supply Co,


I think these are the dimensions you'd need.... BUT DOUBLE CHECK



100 Brass "7/4" for 100 x .07 cent:
Products - Hanson Rivet Online Store
100 Steel Plated "7/4" for .03 cent x 100:
Products - Hanson Rivet Online Store

Would give you plenty to practice with

You may find rivets on Ebay or Amazon. I've used a Hand held Rivet set tool that worked.
Sometimes see them on Ebay amazon also.

Hopefully others will step in and give more advise.

Later Buddy

[INLAND44]

Inland44,
The gun is a Inland sn. 695709 that would be to early for the bayonet lug, right? I don't know if it is the org. gun that came with this A1 stock or not. any way I decided to just leave it like it is. although I have thought about replacing the face pad rivets, the pad looks good but it has the wrong rivets in it, I have 4 ea. of what I've been told are the correct rivets, I started once to replace them but backed out for fear I would make a mess out of it. has any one replaced the rivets in there face pad ? I'm not sure how to do it, what type tools etc. thanks for any advice ?

The rivets are the only thing on the gun that sticks, they look like they are chrome plated ???

Okay, is it an Inland barrel? What's the barrel date? If the barrel goes with the receiver, the bayo lug would have been installed by the military during an upgrade/overhaul. If the finish is original (blued) it might be worth putting on the correct band. If it has been parkerized, you may as well leave it as is.