When it really happens: SHTF...

[Aragorn243]

Aragorn you seem up to speed on this just one thing is can you check what were the number of deaths in the US in the period say Feb-June 2019 compared to the same period this year Feb-June 2020 keeping the 2019 figure as a base line. As the firgures we are getting here from our news show the Covid - 19 deaths in the USA at 138,000 with freezer trucks being employed to take the passed persons away with 100,000 new cases. One way or the other the figures if availible should show if porkies are being told this should discount MVA's as they are a seperate entity to what we are trying to fathom here. TIA

There is a site that produces a 5 year average for deaths by day in the US. I have seen it and reported it here a few times. When I can locate it again I will do so. There was only a short period during the peak of this that this years numbers were higher than that average. For a few days, they were significantly higher. Other than that period, it has been lower than average.

This website shows a daily run down since this started: https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily. At the peak we had tested 4.2 million people and had 813,000 cases and 59,000 hospitalized. Today we have tested 45 million people, have 3.7 million cases and 58,000 hospitalizations. So we have fewer in the hospital now than we did they with over 10 times the confirmed cases. One thing to remember is then the vast majority of these hospitalizations was concentrated in one state, New York. Today it is spread all over the nation. The media reported "hot spots" are no where near what was going on in New York then. And even New York's health system was never overwhelmed. New York survived because there was a moratorium on hospitalizations nation wide. They were all closed to non-essential service and reserved for for Covid. New York's hospitals then were nearly all Covid cases. The "overwhelmed" hospitals today are 30% covid cases.

The US has 944,000 hospital beds by the way. Obviously spread out all over and concentrated in the larger municipalities but Covid follows the same spread. So Covid is tying up about 6% of our total capacity.

What really ticks me off is that if you go outside, drive around, or walk around some locations, life is going on as normal or at near normal levels yet certain governors are freaking out, attempting to shut things down even more. I still do not know a single person personally that actually had Covid. That's not died from, not hospitalized from, I know of no one who has tested positive for it.

The fear is there, it's easy to create and maintain because you naturally want to believe and respond in certain ways. I think much of this is complete crap. Yesterday I went to a wedding with my wife, one daughter and her husband. I didn't want to go. I hate weddings and barely knew the girl getting married but I figured I better go to make sure my wife didn't get carried away and get infected. I asked if there was going to be spacing, etc and was assured this had all been taken care of. It wasn't. People were packed in like sardines and spacing outside of the wedding itself was maybe 3 feet at best. I was nervous for much of the evening. But life went on, they celebrated, I eventually relaxed. There were only a couple of older people there, they didn't wear masks, they didn't distance themselves. The Greatest Generation which is so often mentioned has told this virus to screw off for the most part. The attitude I hear from those I've talked to if they are even paying attention to it is "if I get it, I get it, if I die, I die, I've had a good life."

And what do I see from my generation? A fictitious garbage post supposedly penned by Dr Fauci comparing Chicken Pox, HIV and Herpes to Covid 19 because they are all viruses and the first three never really go away so if I want to hide in my basement and make you hide in your basement, I'm right and you're wrong and there's no debate on it.

I've said all along I'm a numbers guy but I don't gamble, I don't ride helicopters for fun, I don't sky dive, I don't race or ride motorcycles. All in all I'm a fair cautious guy. I do ride roller coasters with my hands in the air, I do leave the house in the morning, and I travel in cars extensively. I am wearing a mask when I go shopping but not outdoors and I have no real fear of shopping. This virus is much more contagious than the seasonal flu, about 8 times more so from the data I've seen. But the death rate is now lower, despite having reported high numbers at the beginning, it almost all from older people Yet even in those over age 80, the mortality rate is still only 18%. That's a significant percentage to be sure but there are a lot of people out there, young people, that believe if they get this they are going to die. And that belief is completely from what the politicians and the media is telling them.

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