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    Supposedly, Trump took all the accounting and tracking away from the CDC because they were 7 weeks behind in their data. They made improvements just prior to the take away to get the backlog to 5 weeks. The new group compiling the data and numbers is now something like 2 days behind. This is the government in action. There are numerous states including Pennsylvania that screwed up their testing data big time. Florida's numbers are coming in at 100% positive when the real numbers are between 7 and 9% positive.

    Has to make you wonder how many of the people working in the CDC are from the former administration mucking things up.

    Covid deaths in Pennsylvania from nursing homes is between 68 and 71%. And because of this we have had draconian measures taken to shut down the entire state. Remember that PA was one of the states hit hard during the early phase of this. Five Democrat governors, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey and one other that I can't remember at the moment all got together and formed a strategy on how to combat it. Part of that strategy was sending positive Covid cases back to the nursing homes claiming the CDC guidelines instructed them to do so when they did not. If you read through the guidelines it does in fact say that should be done but the next paragraph says something to the effect of "Only if they can be isolated and controlled" and none of the nursing homes had that capability outside perhaps one or two individuals.

    This is a few weeks old but it remains telling on the danger of this virus to various age groups:

    Pennsylvania COVID-19 Deaths


    Age Group Ave Age Deaths Total Years
    0-4 2 0 0
    5-9 7 0 0
    10-14 12 0 0
    15-19 17 0 0
    20-24 22 0 0
    25-29 27 0 0
    30-34 32 7 224
    35-39 37 5 185
    40-44 42 21 882
    45-49 47 45 2,115
    50-54 52 83 4,316
    55-59 57 146 8,322
    60-64 62 251 15,562
    65-69 67 354 23,718
    70-74 72 444 31,968
    75-79 77 512 39,424
    80-84 82 638 52,316
    85-89 87 800 69,600
    90-94 92 768 70,656
    95-99 97 341 33,077
    100-104 102 64 6,528
    105-109 107 6 642

    Total 4,485 359,535
    (Age not classified for 8 of 4,493 deaths)
    Average age of death calculation:
    Total Years/Total Deaths = 80.16

    One important fact is that more people, six, over the age of 105 have died than those aged under 30, zero.

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    And just to clarify because some people seem concerned about it. There is no covid disaster in the United Statesicon. I personally haven't traveled far, Gettysburg being the furthest, but my daughter went to Tennessee for a week, my brother in law went to the Carolina's for two weeks and friends have gone to the Delaware/Maryland shore. Aside from certain things not being open which is the real and only crisis, everything is pretty much as normal. No refrigerator trucks full of bodies, no mass graves being dug.

    TV is getting boring because everything is re-runs, nothing in the theaters and we still haven't been able to go to our favorite buffets.

    Now in some of the cities, leftists are still burning things down, Portland Oregon being the biggest problem, the hotbed of Antifa. The media actually stopped reporting it because they finally figured out it was more damaging to Democrats than Trump. So now they just report when they want to criticize Trump for sending federal agents in to do their jobs in protecting federal property. I don't think that will work out well for them either.

    My concern is the massive debt that is being piled up. It was bad before this started and it's gone up a full third in just a few months. Not a good sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    Supposedly, Trump took all the accounting and tracking away from the CDC because they were 7 weeks behind in their data. They made improvements just prior to the take away to get the backlog to 5 weeks. The new group compiling the data and numbers is now something like 2 days behind. This is the government in action. There are numerous states including Pennsylvania that screwed up their testing data big time. Florida's numbers are coming in at 100% positive when the real numbers are between 7 and 9% positive.

    Has to make you wonder how many of the people working in the CDC are from the former administration mucking things up.

    Covid deaths in Pennsylvania from nursing homes is between 68 and 71%. And because of this we have had draconian measures taken to shut down the entire state. Remember that PA was one of the states hit hard during the early phase of this. Five Democrat governors, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey and one other that I can't remember at the moment all got together and formed a strategy on how to combat it. Part of that strategy was sending positive Covid cases back to the nursing homes claiming the CDC guidelines instructed them to do so when they did not. If you read through the guidelines it does in fact say that should be done but the next paragraph says something to the effect of "Only if they can be isolated and controlled" and none of the nursing homes had that capability outside perhaps one or two individuals.

    This is a few weeks old but it remains telling on the danger of this virus to various age groups:

    Pennsylvania COVID-19 Deaths


    Age Group Ave Age Deaths Total Years
    0-4 2 0 0
    5-9 7 0 0
    10-14 12 0 0
    15-19 17 0 0
    20-24 22 0 0
    25-29 27 0 0
    30-34 32 7 224
    35-39 37 5 185
    40-44 42 21 882
    45-49 47 45 2,115
    50-54 52 83 4,316
    55-59 57 146 8,322
    60-64 62 251 15,562
    65-69 67 354 23,718
    70-74 72 444 31,968
    75-79 77 512 39,424
    80-84 82 638 52,316
    85-89 87 800 69,600
    90-94 92 768 70,656
    95-99 97 341 33,077
    100-104 102 64 6,528
    105-109 107 6 642

    Total 4,485 359,535
    (Age not classified for 8 of 4,493 deaths)
    Average age of death calculation:
    Total Years/Total Deaths = 80.16

    One important fact is that more people, six, over the age of 105 have died than those aged under 30, zero.

    These data are really interesting!
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    TV is getting boring because everything is re-runs, nothing in the theaters and we still haven't been able to go to our favorite buffets.
    Try Yellowstone on Paramount. Interesting show.

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    I'm at the Venice airport...dead.
    Few people, most shops closed, no newspapers, no lounge...
    All silent...
    Face cover compulsory everywhere and all the time.
    Few flights.
    I have another trip to do next week, after that I think I'll tell people to just call me by Skype or similar means.
    Some trips by car if everything will be fine in Germanyicon and Austriaicon, otherwise I have better ways to spend my time than "surfing" through panic stricken public transport systems.
    I did not expect it to be this bad.
    Luckily, on Tuesday next week I'll have to go to Lana, in Alto Adige (Südtirol), and I'll do it on my mythical Guzzi California. Up and down the Dolomites. That will be a trip worth doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    Try Yellowstone on Paramount. Interesting show.
    Yes, I notice the advertisement for Yellowstone has changed. They did an "Elmer Fudd" and took Kevin Costner's Winchester that he had resting on his shoulder and put a shovel instead. More PC BS.

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    Frankfurt Airport, 5:15 PM...
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    Makes it easier to clean then?? Blimey that concourse would normally be packed 24 hours of the day!!
    'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA

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    Venice first, then Frankfurt.
    These two completely deserted airports gave me the shivers.
    The economical shock seems to be much greater than it feels yet.
    I fear that we still have to see the bottom of the curve. We might be very far from it yet.
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    My son in law flies quite a bit. I'll have to ask him how crowded our airports are. I know flights are down to a fraction of normal but that's about it. The **** really hit the fan for me on Monday. Computer crapped out big time. It went out on Thursday also but I was able to get it going again. This time it was dead. Lost a days work salvaging files off DOS and that really wasn't fun. Son in law put a solid state hard drive in it and I just got it back. So Monday. Borough decides that the streets need cleaning so I have to move my old truck. I just drove it two weeks ago so not thinking much about it but it won't start. Not a dead battery either. Just won't start. So son in law has to winch me back so I can get it over the curb and into the yard for the street cleaning. Had it towed to the shop yesterday. Probably something minor and it needed inspected anyway. That ran out at the end of June but I haven't been driving it and with Covid restrictions really wasn't driving much at all. Shop tells me that this is suddenly very common and the police aren't ticketing anyone for it at the moment anyway. So just a minor sidelight of Covid. People aren't getting their vehicles inspected on time.

    Our Governor has now decided only he can tell us what constitutes a meal. I guess he got ****ed that bars all came up with Governor Wolf meal menus to sidestep his idiotic proclamation that you can't get Covid if you're eating a meal but you can get it if you're just drinking a beer. So "snacks" are not meals now although he didn't exactly define what a snack is either. I expect everyone will ignore this as they are ignoring half of everything else he says. In the meantime, he's refusing to turn over freedom of information acts, possibly threatened the arrest of Federal law enforcement if they take actions in Philadelphia or possibly the entire state, not sure. And he made a big stink about transphobia yesterday due to one of the county fairs posting a series of photos of someone dressed like our Health Secretary Levine who is a man that believes he's a woman. Yes, that's whose in charge of our health decisions today. He was a somewhat renowned pediatric psychiatrist before he was politically appointed to this position. One he apparently isn't qualified for due to his poor decision making. Anyway, this person in the photos was in a dunk tank and the comment was "Thank you Dr Levine for helping our fire company raise so much money at the fair. I wonder why so many people wanted to dunk you" Obviously, this referred to the very unpopular decisions he and the Governor have made, and had nothing to do with being transgender yet that's where the Governor went with it. The governor also refuses to turn over money to the one county he had access to the funds that ignored his mandate and opened early. He says actions have consequences. In other words, he's just being petty. They need to get this guy out as he refuses to cooperate at all with the legislature. He's gone full dictator.

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