"Weapons Expert" surprised by 30 carbine performance

[Surpmil]

It was "Indochina" until 1954 when the French were defeated at Dien Ben Phu... and that was the beginning of our foolishness there - all those years ago. Anyone that ever under- estimated the Vietnamese as an opponent learned the hard way just how tenacious and ferocious they can be in a conflict situation. For hundreds of years as they were conquered over and over again - the "conquerors" soon regretted ever tangling with them.... It's no accident that all their cultural heroes were warriors going back hundreds of years...

Viet Bac - north Vietnam, Viet Nam - south country... I actually had some schooling in the history and culture of that part of the world before I was sent there in 1971,,, My dad did two tours there...

IIRC they were effectively and traditionally two states until the French forced them into one. The South in fact had a legitimate claim to self-determination, however as a society it was a moral failure and so couldn't resist a totalitarian aggressor. Hopefully the lesson isn't lost on the rest of us.