modern rifle alteration

[pocketshaver]

#4 is a major issue. Depending on the magazine design making it work would either require significant modification (well outside the skill set of most modern 'gunsmiths'), or possibly a brand new magazine fitted to the rifle. Lee Enfields and Mosin Nagants magazines are both designed from the ground up for a rimmed cartridge, its much harder to make a rimless design work with a rimmed round. If its single stacked there likely isn't enough room, and if it is double stacked you would have to do a ton of work just to get a couple rounds into it (capacity would likely be greatly reduced).

My recommendation if you really want a .30-30 bolt action is to find one of the 1889 Swiss sporters that are kicking around in .30-30 (tend to be pretty cheap too). Not saying what you want isn't possible, but the cost to actually do it would likely be significantly more than buying a gun made that way would be.

well if you got some links to them ide be happy

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30-30 would be my ideal. I love the cartridge and it has never failed me. I just have no further interest in hunting or target shooting with a lever action. arm and hand injuries make it annoying as hell for me.

I would be content or happy with military rifles in cartridges that had the same recoil/hunting power as the 30-30, but those not so easy to find.

[browningautorifle]

military rifles in cartridges that had the same recoil/hunting power as the 30-30,

I often toyed with the idea of converting a #1 or #4 rifle into 30-30... A .30 cal barrel and some machining. That would make brass easy to get and recoil down as you say.

[Daan Kemp]

You can also manage recoil by downloading appropriately.

[browningautorifle]

manage recoil by downloading

Our problem here is brass availability and longevity. But that's off this track, it was just a project I was looking at...

[pocketshaver]

You can also manage recoil by downloading appropriately.

i got lots of choices on what to use, but id like the 30-30 because it works as is, straight from the factory. I don't think I have ever seen any other cartridge perform as well as the Winchester super x 150 grain jhp 30-30 load. except perhaps a headshot on a deer with a 223.

[vintage hunter]

i got lots of choices on what to use, but id like the 30-30 because it works as is, straight from the factory. I don't think I have ever seen any other cartridge perform as well as the Winchester super x 150 grain jhp 30-30 load. except perhaps a headshot on a deer with a 223.

I imagine that statement has started many a heated argument around the deer camp....��

[pocketshaver]

I imagine that statement has started many a heated argument around the deer camp....��

ive had lung shot deer with 100 grain jsp .243 win run 300 yards. and when recovered the lungs were simply best described as pudding.

ive had a lung shot deer with a .308 that ran 500 yards, that when recovered, the lungs were not found inside the animal.

ive had far to many deer shot with that 30-30 load at the same and longer distances, simply FALL DOWN and not move again. when hit through the lungs.