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So they’ll all shoot rocks anyway
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Initial impression on reading your post was why in the world a pump action AR. But watching a video, not a bad system if that's all you're left with. I don't want one, I can own an actual AR but if you can't own one, why not.
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Yep. We say “better more than more of less”.
Difficult to translate, but when you have little, better that than a lot of nothing...
I’d rather do with a pump action AR15 than with a full auto nothing.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
Initial impression on reading your post was why in the world a pump action AR. But watching a video, not a bad system if that's all you're left with. I don't want one, I can own an actual AR but if you can't own one, why not.
Very far away from the topic, but I think everyone will find it interesting. A pump action Galil/R4 - https://www.forgottenweapons.com/vektor-h5-pump-action-adaptation-of-the-south-african-galil/.
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I am really starting to wonder where this is all going to go. Spent another weekend really not doing all that much. It's like the entire world just came to a stop. Businesses are dying but we really don't hear much about it. The stores are all on hours like the 1970's other than the big ones are still open on Sundays. And no one is really talking about it. It's like we've all decided this is how it's going to be and that's it. Meanwhile, no one is talking Covid either other than the backdrop of schools reopening which they are this week and next around here. Unless you're involved with that, not much else going on.
And most important, no move by the government to end these measures which are now more damaging than the virus actually is.
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Originally Posted by
Aragorn243
And most important, no move by the government to end these measures which are now more damaging than the virus actually is.
Not to mention the "Gun Shows" , AKA Chinese trinket Shows AKA Flea Market. Perhaps 50% guns and related items. If you were looking for Chinese pocketknives/back scratchers you would have been in heaven. I think the generic My Pillow / Dream Sheets dealer did better than anyone else.
A few walk ins were the only redeeming factor.
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The Department of Justice in the federal government has launched an investigation into the actions of four state governors during the Covid Pandemic, Cuomo in NY, Wolf in PA, Murphy in NJ, and Whitmer of MI. This is what I have been talking about for several months now. They are being required to turn in all evidence concerning the deaths in nursing homes, and the specific orders on handling Covid cases in these facilities. This is pretty cut and dry. These four governors held a meeting and coordinated their response to Covid. All four ordered nursing homes to take Covid patients which resulted in thousands of needless deaths. No other state has had the same problems as these four. In Pennsylvania, 70% of all deaths in the state were in nursing homes. They tried to hide it by moving them to hospitals to die and fudging the numbers. This action is also on the list of requirements to be turned over to the investigators. Why is this significant? Because the CDC guidelines specifically prohibited the introduction of Covid patients into nursing homes and these four governors, all Democrats, ignored this directive while claiming they were following CDC guidelines. Wolf in particular is in deep **** because his Health Secretary removed his mother from a nursing home and put her in a hotel for the duration of this pandemic and did so before publishing the order forcing homes to take them in. THEY KNEW. It's nice to think something will come of this but I doubt anything will. If nothing else, the news will get out there again and perhaps wake up a few more individuals to what these three men and one woman did. NY in particular has managed to keep the true numbers secret with only about 6000 plus being official. But that's because they stopped counting when they move them out and they died elsewhere. It has been estimated that at least 60% of NY's deaths came from these facilities. Considering the numbers from PA, that is very likely. PA's deaths are more accurately tracked. NJ's official percentage is 43%. NY's is 20% which is half the national average. It's a joke. NY and NJ have the highest mortality rates in the country and I expect their true numbers will be in line with PA's when this is all said and done.
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Interesting developments.
When someone wants to throw dung in the fan, they at least should be totally clean.
The same is happening over here, and many have stopped loughing all of a sudden.
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Ventured to one of our favorite buffet's today for the first time in over six months. In the time the two of us were there, I saw only 5 other customers. 2 were coming in as we were going out. There were at least 10 employees in the place because that many took their dinner break while we were eating. Add the two at the door and our waiter, that's at least 13 and I'm sure there were more in the kitchen.
They cannot survive at this rate. We were there at a prime dinner hour.
I like supporting businesses but neither of us were very comfortable eating there. We had to mask every time we left the table. They only gave us one napkin so there was no where to put our mask when we take them off. We had to plastic glove ourselves to get food.
And today I learned that of all these people who have died from Covid, only 6% of them actually died from Covid. 94% were dying of at least two other things when they got Covid. I knew these numbers were high but not this high. This was the CDC that released this data and no one said anything about it. Not the local or state governments, not the news media. No one said anything until Trump tweeted about it and they had no choice. And when he Tweets something, they are obligated to twist it into something it isn't.
This is their headline for Trumps tweets: Trump Promotes the Outlandish Claim That COVID-19 Has Killed a 'Minuscule' Number of Americans.
I don't follow his tweets so I'm a day or two out of the loop. The CDC released this four days ago and it was around mid day today that some in the media started reporting it because they had no choice. As of this instant, no major news outlet is reporting the CDC release. Only local news stations have picked up on it. Twitter is censoring and removing any reference to Trumps Tweet.
This is what we are dealing with.
They are killing our infrastructure, our economy, our jobs solely for political reasons and they can't hide that anymore, yet they try.
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Around here they are doubling down on the masks at the same time as they send the kids back to school! (Not the universities though - go figure!)
Trump missed his chance years ago: he should have used anti-trust legislation to bust up the media conglomerates. For the average...citizen...
whatever is on the news is reality; they have neither the guts nor the motivation to investigate anything for themselves, despite it now being ridiculously easy to do so.
“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same. 
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