not too far off topic...mini 14

[CTMC(ret)]

Well....can't say what the stock weighs but the entire rig is 7lbs12ozs (with the Redot). I would say it is not particularly light - it is made with military grade components - very solid and durable. The carbine weighs in at 5lbs5ozs. Recoil on the Mini is about on a par with the carbine (bearing in mind that, with the carbine, I'm shooting the Aguila .30 ammo from DCM, said to be a lighter loading than regulation and with the Mini, I WAS shooting Olympic SS109).

If you're looking for significant weight reduction - try the Muzzlelite stock! It weighs about 2lbs, with the accessory rail installed. But - be forewarned - the trigger pull is atrocious due to the transfer bars, even after smoothing them their entire length and drowning in Lubriplate). But, it does look BAD and never fails to get the "What the hell is that?!" (Think "Starship Troopers"). Goes to the shoulder comfortably and fits my short arms as well. 40-rd mags can be problematic, fitting VERY close to the lower rear corner of the pistol grip. (If you'd like to try it just for grins, I'd be happy to send it to you for a trial run! P.S. NOT for southpaws!!!

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[Garand Doctor]

I few years ago I executed a design exercise and built what I called a M214 rifle (214) it being smaller than the M-1A(M-14). It was chambered in the .308X 1 1/2 Barnes which is now marketed as the .30 Remington AR. The M-214 is on the bottom. Full size M-1A on top.